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| easy_ham | "\n> From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of\nJames\n> Rogers\n\n> Subject: Re: The Curse of India's Socialism\n> \n> On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 15:01, Ian Andrew Bell wrote:\n\n> > They\n> > finished their routine with the a quadruple lutz -- laying off\n> > hundreds of thousands of workers when it all came crashing down.\n> \n> So what? Nobody is guaranteed employment. Laying people off is not a\n> crime nor is it immoral. Companies don't exist to provide employment,\n> nor should they. The closest we have to such a thing in the US is a\n> Government Job, and look at the quality THAT breeds.\n\nAnd further, why focus on the fact they were laid off and not on the\nfact they were hired in the first place?\n\nBTW: I saw someone claim that aside from the efficiency of the market\nthere were also gains to society from irrational behavior.\n\nIf a society has business people that systematically overestimate their\nchances, that is bad for the businessmen but on net a big gain for\nsociety. On the social level, the law of averages works to societies\nbenefit in a manner it can't for an individual.\n\nA key reason, in this view, that the US wound up outperforming England\nwas that the English investors were too rational for their societies own\ngood.\n\n(Except, of course, when US investors were bilking them to build canals\nand railroads over here. Thanks, guys.)\n\n=====================\n\nApplied to telecom: a lot of dark wire (glass) and innovation will\neventually be used for pennies on the dollar, the benefits to society\nand the costs to the investors.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi,\n\nOn Sun, 01 Sep 2002 00:05:03 MDT Reg Clemens wrote: \n \n[...]\n> in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS\n> gives\n> \n> Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDDF997A\n> Can't check signature: public key not found\n> \n> So, something else is missing.\n\nYes, the public key of the signature you want to check :-).\n\nAre you really sure that you have the public key of the message's\nsignature? If not, try downloading it or try to check a signature from\nwhich you know you have the public key.\n\n\n\nRegards,\n\nIngo\n\n-- \nIngo Frommholz PGP public keys on homepage\ningo@frommholz.org http://www.frommholz.org/\nMy childhood inspection is my record collection (Ned's Atomic Dustbin)\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Fri Sep 13 2002 at 02:03, Robert Elz wrote:\n\n> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:15:00 -0700\n> From: Brent Welch <welch@panasas.com>\n\n> | exmh has a funky cut/paste model that is essentially all my fault.\n> | The middle click sets the insert point. If you hate that, go to the\n> | Bindings... Simple Edit preferences window and de-select\n> | \"Paste Sets Insert\".\n> \n> Unfortunately, the side effect of that solution is that it is no longer\n> possible to cut/paste within one sedit window, some intermediate client\n> always must be used (except in the rare case where you want to select\n> some text, and then paste it at the same place).\n\n> So, the vast majority of people probably want that \"Paste Sets Insert\"\n> enabled - that one you can learn to live with, the other is much more\n> painful.\n\nFor a long time I have used an external editor with exmh (gvim).\n\nI can cut'n'paste from exmh's message display window into spawned\ngvim processes, but not into anything else.\n\nThis is VERY annoying.\n\n (I have to look at the message with cat or less or whatever in a\n terminal window if I want to do this - which is quite often. And\n if the message is q-p encoded or a non-text/plain mime type, I end\n up with all that raw garbage too).\n\nAnyway to fix this?\n\n(BTW: standard i386 redhat7.3)\n\nThanks.\n\n> kre\n\nCheers\nTony\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 01:06, Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n> > > Thanks a *lot* ! The RPMs seem to be fine, they worked for me out of\n> > > the box (on vanilla Valhalla w/latest errata).\n> > \n> > ...except that I don't see an init script in the RPMs, a sample one\n> > designed for RH is supposed to be in \"utils/alsasound\". Could you take\n> > a look if it can be included?\n> \n> It doesn't need to as Red Hat Linux already sets correct permissions on all\n> ALSA audio devices for locally logged in users (through the console.perms\n> file) and the modules.conf files takes care of loading the right modules on\n> demand. Also, aumix and the scripts that come with Red Hat Linux still work\n> for controlling the volume, so it's still saved and restored when the\n> computer is halted, even using ALSA.\n\nAh! The mixer stuff was what made me look for an init script in the\nfirst place, I didn't bother to check whether the existing stuff would\nhave worked with that. Will try that out, you can assume silence ==\nsuccess :)\n\n> >From what I can tell after only 2 days using it : ALSA rocks, especially\n> since having a full OSS compatibility results that it breaks nothing at\n> all! :-)\n\nAgreed. Though with only 2 hours experience...\n\n-- \n\\/ille Skyttä\nville.skytta at iki.fi\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi, I'm building an rpm for the resin webserver, and I basically want to \ninstall the entire tarball under a diretory, but, the tarball includes \nsubdirectorys, in my spec i have:\n\n\ninstall -s -m 755 %{name}-%{version}.%{release}/* \\\n $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/local/resin\n\nand I'm getting:\n\ninstall: `resin-2.0.5/bin' is a directory\ninstall: `resin-2.0.5/conf' is a directory\n\nIs there a proper/nice way I should handle this?\n\n\n -- \\m/ --\n \"...if I seem super human I have been misunderstood.\" (c) Dream Theater\n mark@talios.com - ICQ: 1934853 JID: talios@myjabber.net\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi All,\nI'm trying to set up the following:\n\n1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an\nethernet card for LAN connectivity\n2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for\nDNS/DHCP etc.\n\nBasically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0.\n\nI've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem\nproblems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing\nis all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the\ndefault route or something).\n\nIs there standard \"out of the box\" Linux tools that will carry out\nportmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable\naddresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0\ninterface).\n\nCan someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need\nto follow ? \nThanks,\nDermot.\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["> From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>\n> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:21:21 -0500\n>\n> One possibility that occurs to me would be a button or mouse\n> click that \"shrinks\" the Sequences window to show only the\n> sequences in the \"always show\" list. And of course a way to \n> expand it back.\n\nThat's a pretty good idea. I'm not sure I'll get to it any time soon. (I \nalready have a known bug reported on 9/25 that I haven't been able to get to.)\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"] |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :\n\n> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200\n> Matthias Saou <matthias@rpmforge.net> wrote:\n> \n> # But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon\n> # as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)\n> \n> It got updated (;\n\nSo did my build if the original source is what you were mentioning ;-)\nOne drawback : They changed from pspell to aspell apparently, and it\nrequires aspell >= 0.50 which isn't even in Rawhide, so spell checking is\ndisabled for now until I take a decision about it :-/\n\nIf I build recent aspell packages, they may not be upgraded when ungrating\nto the next Red Hat Linux release (the final version of the limbos and\n(null) betas), which is maybe not really desired. I'll probably test and\nsee...\n\nMatthias\n\nPS: The spec file was massively updated and the --with / --without options\nthat can be used to rebuild the source packages are now listed in the\ndescription ;-)\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "> Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*:\n> >As Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas\n> >or from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc\n> >(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll\n> >probably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-)\n> \n> I think this is probably the best way, because I think (maybe) with upgrading you\n> do not always automatically get the latest feature enabled in some config file\n> because RH would rather take it easy and not update that config file (you get a\n> rpmnew instead of rpmsaved file) so they get less calls to support that way.\n\nIf you dislike Red Hat, why use it ? This was a really bad argument \nagainst using Red Hat that makes no sense at all. I for one am GLAD that \nthey \na) don't overwrite your config files on a whim (be GLAD they don't do some \nsort of autodetection and changing crap)\nb) tell you on rpm upgrade what config files you should look at because \nformats have changed.\n\nRed Hat is not \"taking it easy\" on this, it's putting control in the hands \nof you, the maintainer of the machine. Don't be lazy.\n\n> Anyway, I have tons of media files in /home/* probably 5 to 10 gigs at least, my\n> laptop's CDROM takes 700MB at a time (obviously) and compressing media files is\n> dumb because they are already compressed. Dumb question: how to backup huge data?\n> Network backup to another box? I do not have a box with a tape drive, but maybe box\n> with a large HD with much free space could take the backup (oops, I do not have a\n> space computer with a large HD with much free space).\n\nYou don't need to backup /home if you are careful enough. You did put \n/home on a separate partition, no ? Just install rh80 and tell it to use \nthe same partition as /home and tell it to NOT format it, but keep the \ndata as is.\n\nIf you didn't put /home on a separate partition, then you really do need \nto make backups. Use an nfs or smb mount from another machine to backup \nand rsync straight to the mount, or if that's not possible, rsync over \nssh. It's the best way to make backups.\n\n> These media files are backed up - ON THE CD'S THEY CAME FROM! \n\nIt's the other way around - your media files are backups of the CD's they \ncame from ;)\n\nGood luck,\nThomas\n-- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nYou know the shape my breath will take before I let it out\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Once upon a time, Coy wrote :\n\n> I can't seem to build this package. It errors out because rpm found \n> files not included in any of the packages. I tried getting them addes \n> (it's the documentation that is being loaded) and was unsuccessful. \n> Anyone get this to work?\n\nHi,\n\nCould you post the list of files in question? Maybe more docs get generated\nwhen a certain doc tool is installed and that I didn't have it installed\nwhen I rebuilt the package :-/\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.06 0.12 0.09, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (1:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["If anyone here is running (null) beta then you may like these Gnome theme packages.\nThey are enhanced and repackages from my previous theme packs, this time to conform\nto the way pre-release RH8 handles themes for GTK1 and GTK2.\n\nRedHat has a preferences -> themes app, but themes only show up there that have BOTH\ngtk1.2 (Gnome1) themes AND gtk1.4 (GTK2 aka Gnome2) themes available. Then RH will\napply the theme to both GTK versions, so the user does not really notice that\ndifferent GTK toolkit versions are being used, since they *should* look the same.\n\nThis \"gtk2-engines-compat\" RPM has GTK2 ported themes for those themes that are\nincluded in the RH package \"gtk-engines\" themes pack for GTK1.\n\nThe \"gtk1+2-themez\" pack mostly repackages my previous theme RPMs in a way that the\n(null) btea like, and supposedly the next RH8 when released :)\n\nforward - original mail:\n From \" Angles Puglisi\" <angles@aminvestments.com>\n Date 09/01/2002 - 06:10:03 am\n Subject some (null) eyecandy packages\n", ["I make these for myself, you may find them of interest. See the .spec file(s) for info.\n\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-engines-compat-1.0-aap1.noarch.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-engines-compat-1.0.spec\n\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk1+2-themez-1.1-aap1.noarch.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk1+2-themez-1.1.spec\n\nYou'll need gtk-engines, gtk2-engines, and a \"thinice\" engine for gtk2, this one\nmight be a old now but it works:\n\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-thinice-engine-2.0.1-2.i386.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-thinice-engine-2.0.1-2.src.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/gtk2-thinice-engine-2.0.1.spec\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nLimbo-list mailing list\nLimbo-list@redhat.com\n"]] |
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| easy_ham | "Hi Folks,\n\nI have just installed spamassassin 2.31 in my postfix MTA server.\n\nAt first, I would like to test it just in my email account before \napplying it to the wole site.\n\nI configured just as in the INSTALL file:\n\n\t5. Create a .forward...\n\t\"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #user\"\n\t6. create a .procmailrc\n\t:0fw\n\t| /usr/bin/spamassassin -c \n\t\t\t/etc/mail/spamassassin/rules\n\nBut the spams get trought it untouched. When I run it by the hand:\n\ncat sample-spam.txt | /usr/bin/spamassassin -c \n\t\t\t\t/etc/mail/spamassassin/rules\n\nit does tag it as spam and send me the email.\n\nwhat should I look at?\n\nThank you,\n\n\n-- \nLuiz Felipe Ceglia \t- Staff TereNet\nlceglia@terenet.com.br\t- +55-21-9135-3679\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nOn Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 11:48 AM, Robin Lynn Frank wrote:\n\n> If I were a spammer, I'd simply set up a server, send out my \n> spam with the\n> Habeus headers and continue till I was reasonably certain I'd \n> been reported.\n> Then I'd simply reconfigure the server and reconnect to a \n> different IP. As\n> long as no one can establish my connection to the web sites my spam is\n> directing people to, I'm home free.\n\nUh... the reason is simple. Habeas runs something called the \n\"Habeas Infringers List\", and if you use their trademark without \ntheir permission, you'll end up on it. Then, when you send spam \nwith the misappropriated header, users of SA (2.40 supports \nthis) will tag your mail as spam, rather than let it through. \nThis may be done independantly of your IP address, so be \nprepared to constantly change domain names, and move your \nservers as fast as you send spam.\n\nAlso, that little haiku is a copyrighted work, so not only CAN \nHabeas sue, they MUST sue to protect their copyright. And since \nit's a trademark as well, that's a double-whammy. Habeas has \nsome pretty high-powered legal people, who will gladly go to \ntown on violators.\n\nThe whole point here is to give them the legal leverage they \nneed to put spammers out of business, and not only block mail \nfrom them, but allow through the things that really AREN'T spam.\n\n--B\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Folks, \n\nSome of you seem to have hardcoded honor as the default catalogue server.\nThere are three catalogue only servers running now, and honor is acting\nas a nomination only server. Tonight we will be completely turning off\ncatalogue support on honor, so if you are specifying honor with the -rs\noption, please take it out and let the agents discover a closeby\ncatalogue server.\n\ncheers,\nvipul.\n\n\n-- \n\nVipul Ved Prakash | \"The future is here, it's just not \nSoftware Design Artist | widely distributed.\"\nhttp://vipul.net/ | -- William Gibson\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Richard Kimber wrote:\n\n> On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:20:46 -0700 (PDT)\n> Bart Schaefer <schaefer@zanshin.com> wrote:\n> \n> > If you're using \"fetchmail --mda spamassassin\" or the equivlent, then\n> > this change means your current setup will no longer work. \n> \n> Oh well, I guess there are other anti-spam options out there.\n\nWell, (a) you don't HAVE to upgrade, and (b) what you are doing has never\nbeen safe in the first place because SpamAssassin 2.31-and-before doesn't\ndo any kind of file locking while it writes to the mailbox and doesn't\npromise to return the proper failure code on disk-full conditions, etc.\n\nIf you're still willing to live with (b), all you need is a little shell\nscript to run spamassassin:\n\n----------\n#!/bin/sh\n# call this file \"spamassassin-wrapper\" and chmod +x it\n{\necho \"From $1 `date`\"\nsed -e '1{/^From /d;}' | spamassassin\necho ''\n} >> $MAIL\n----------\n\nAnd then use\n\nfetchmail --mda 'spamassassin-wrapper %F'\n\nand you should be all set.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Quoting Brendan Kehoe (brendan@zen.org):\n\n> As a workaround, the various distributions could use a GPG singature\n> to verify correctness of the file. Since the distributor's secret key\n> is required to create that signature, it would add a pretty\n> significant step that would have to be taken to make it possible to\n> replace both a rpm or apt file and its accompanying signature.\n\nThere are complex problems inherent in attempts to implement this.\nhttp://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/debian-package-signing\n\n-- \nCheers, My pid is Inigo Montoya. You kill -9 \nRick Moen my parent process. Prepare to vi.\nrick@linuxmafia.com\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 the voices made Robin Lynn Frank write:\n\n> > Tony Svanstrom, on SpamAssassin-talk, noted this US patent:\n> >\n> > http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netah\n> >tml/PTO/search-adv.html&r=62&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&s1=spam&p=2&OS=haiku&RS=spam\n\n> I took a bit of time to review what is on the above URL. If I were a news\n> editor, the headline would be:\n>\n> \"Inventor\" from country that ignores patents and copyrights, seeks patent for\n> inventing the wheel!\n\n The wheel is already patented in Australia; Melbourne man patents the wheel:\n\n <URL: http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:usJnd2dwCDQC:www.theage.com.au/news/state/2001/07/02/FFX0ADFPLOC.html+%22patents+the+wheel%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en|lang_sv&ie=UTF-8 >\n\n\n The sad news is that there seems to be a lot of patents (pending or not)\nthat's for very basic/general ideas; it's the current form of \"domainnapping\",\nand it might turn uggly when people start trying to enfoce these patents.\n\n\n\t/Tony\n-- \n# Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! #\n# Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c) 1999-2002 tony@svanstrom.com =*= #\n\n perl -e'print$_{$_} for sort%_=`lynx -dump svanstrom.com/t`'\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 09:26:47AM +0100, Padraig Brady wrote:\n[...]\n> probably a bit old, 7.3 and 8.0 are out.\n\nAnd I've been told by a SuSE rep that 8.1 will be out in October,\nfor those who are interested.\n\nDavid\t\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n\ntake a look at http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,102881,00.asp\n\n Andrey mailto:andr@sandy.ru\n\n\n\nBM> Does anyone do this already? Or is this a new concept? Or has this concept\nBM> been discussed before and abandoned for some reasons that I don't yet know?\nBM> I use the physical architecture of a basic web application as an example in\nBM> this post, but this concept could of course be applied to most server\nBM> systems. It would allow for the hardware-separation of volatile and\nBM> non-volatile disk images. It would be analogous to performing nightly\nBM> ghosting operations, only it would be more efficient and involve less (or\nBM> no) downtime.\n\nBM> Thanks for any opinions,\nBM> Ben\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote:\n\n--]And yet STILL noone is out there creating _public domain_ content. Is there\n--]even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a\n--]complete hypocrite? And no the \"open source\" people cant talk either, the\n--]GPL aint even close. I know I cant talk.\n\n\nAll my music is in the Public Domain.\n\n\nThere are others.\n\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:\n\n> Adam L. Beberg wrote:\n> > Fair use needs to be clarified a bit\n>\n> That's an understatement!!!\n\nYes, it is :(\n\n> > How else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone\n> > that makes things people are supposed to ... *drumroll* pay for.\n>\n> Well, you could damn well get a fucking better attitude. I practically\n> handed you a job the other week and you pissed all over me. I'm done\n> helping you. You have joined a very exclusive club that up to now has\n> only had my sister as a member.\n\nForwarding me stuff from a list is hardly handing me a job. I tracked them\ndown, they dont exist anymore, like 99% of the things I track down the req's\nare pulled or there is a freeze.\n\nThe real problem is you cant even train for jobs now, since they _demand_\n7-10 years at a job paid to do the wierd collection of skills they want.\n\nBut I'll get lucky eventually and someone I know will be a hiring manager.\n\n- Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n beberg@mithral.com\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Sunday 01 September 2002 08:43 pm, Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote:\n> 3. Java is not just a programming language!\n\nThe astounding thing about java is that despite all of the many significant \npoints in its favor, it still manages to suck, and break across JVMs.\n\nI was really looking forward to being able to use a better language like \njava and get it compiled to real platform-specific binaries via the GNU \ncompiler collection. But this seems to have never really gotten anywhere \nbecause it would require porting or reimplementing libraries, which are \nprobably not source-available or tolerably licenced. When I looked at \nwhat I had to do to gcc and link \"hello world,\" I lost interest.\n\nWho the hell is writing the runtimes, anyway? Why are Perl/Python/Ruby \nmore reliable? In a world where the Macs all ran emulated 68K code \nutterly reliably, it's just hard to accept that there can't be a single \nportable JVM that just works.\n\nMy opinion is biased because of the disgraceful state of non-Windoze \nbrowser java implementations.\n\nEirikur\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Ah, THIS is the car i've seen on discovery channel, but url via a lurker.\n\nhttp://arivettracing.com/battery.html\n\n- Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n beberg@mithral.com\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 bitbitch@magnesium.net wrote:\n\n> If guys still have silly antequated ideas about 'women's role' then\n> their opportunities for finding women _will_ be scarce. \n\nWhat is silly and antiquated depends a lot on which country you live in.\n\nI don't have statistics on the love half life, but it seems long-term \nrelationships use something else for glue.\n\nClearly our non-silly non-antiquated ideas about relationships have\nresulted in mostly short-duration relationships and single-parented,\ndysfunctional kids (not enough of them too boot, so to keep our\ndemographics from completely keeling over we're importing them from places\nwith mostly silly and antiquated ideas).\n\nAt least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and\ncounterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we're doing\nsomething wrong.\n\nMaybe we should really go dirty Tleilaxu all the way.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Today a French officer called Michel Fournier is supposed to get in a\n350-metre tall helium balloon, ride it up to the edge of space (40 km\naltitude) and jump out. His fall should last 6.5 minutes and reach\nspeeds of Mach 1.5. He hopes to open his parachute manually at the\nend, although with an automatic backup if he is 7 seconds from the\nground and still hasn't opened it.\n\nR\n\nObQuote:\n \"Vederò, si averò si grossi li coglioni, come ha il re di Franza.\"\n (\"Let's see if I've got as much balls as the King of France!\")\n - Pope Julius II, 2 January 1511\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "John Hall wrote:\n\n>Why so fast? Normal terminal velocity is much slower.\n> \n>\nNot at 40,000 m. I found this article \n(http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,53928,00.html) :\n\n\"The last person to try to break the highest free fall record died in \nthe attempt. In 1965, New Jersey truck driver Nick Piantanida suffered \ncatastrophic equipment failure when his facemask blew out at 57,000 \nfeet. Lack of oxygen caused such severe brain damage that he went into a \ncoma and died four months later.\"\n\nAnd in amongst the flash at\nhttp://www.legrandsaut.org/site_en/\n\nyou can discover that he will break the sound barrier at 35,000 m,\npresumably reaching top speed somewhere above 30,000.\n\nOwen\n\n> \n>\n>>-----Original Message-----\n>>From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of\n>>bitbitch@magnesium.net\n>>Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:36 AM\n>>To: (Robert Harley)\n>>Cc: fork@example.com\n>>Subject: Re: The Big Jump\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>So uh, would this qualify for the Darwin awards if he doesn't make it?\n>>\n>>Freaking french people...\n>> :-)\n>>-BB\n>>RH> Today a French officer called Michel Fournier is supposed to get\n>> \n>>\n>in a\n> \n>\n>>RH> 350-metre tall helium balloon, ride it up to the edge of space (40\n>> \n>>\n>km\n> \n>\n>>RH> altitude) and jump out. His fall should last 6.5 minutes and\n>> \n>>\n>reach\n> \n>\n>>RH> speeds of Mach 1.5. He hopes to open his parachute manually at\n>> \n>>\n>the\n> \n>\n>>RH> end, although with an automatic backup if he is 7 seconds from the\n>>RH> ground and still hasn't opened it.\n>>\n>>RH> R\n>>\n>>RH> ObQuote:\n>>RH> \"Vederò, si averò si grossi li coglioni, come ha il re di\n>> \n>>\n>Franza.\"\n> \n>\n>>RH> (\"Let's see if I've got as much balls as the King of France!\")\n>>RH> - Pope Julius II, 2 January 1511\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>--\n>>Best regards,\n>> bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net\n>> \n>>\n>\n>\n> \n>\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nSo much for carnivore ;)\n\n-- \nGary Lawrence Murphy - garym@teledyn.com - TeleDynamics Communications\n - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ -\n \"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.\" (Picasso)\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Yes, it's nice to be back in America's flaccid state ...\n\nSeems like only yesterday we were suffering electile dysfunction ...\n\nMaybe if they made the ballot ovals look like little blue pills ...\n\nNo, seriously ... I'm here all week ... You were great ...\n'nite everybody\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Geege Schuman wrote:\n> less obscure haiku \n> \n> buy a puppy, ro!\n> they are chick magnets. master\n> ventriloquism.\n\nReminds me of a Gary Larson cartoon,\nwoman walking dog, man walking aligator,\ndog mostly eaten by aligator, thought cloud\nabove man's head,\n\"This is *such* a great way to meet chicks!\"\n\n- Joe\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"R. A. Hettinga\" <rah@shipwright.com>\n\n>\n> Seriously. Look at he life expectancy and human carrying capacity of\n> this continent before the Europeans got here. Look at it now. Even\n> for descendants of the original inhabitants. Even for the descendents\n> of slaves, who were brought here by force.\nI wouldn't say that the societies of humans here before European occupancy\nwas 'lifted' by free xyz. Perhaps 'replaced' or 'sunk' or some other\ndescription, but not 'lifted'. Also, the lifestyle of the remnants of those\nsocieties is on average only marginally above poverty even today.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"John Hall\" <johnhall@evergo.net>\n\n> A Green once said that if the Spotted Owl hadn't existed they\n> would have had to invent it. \nA Republican once said \"I am not a crook\".\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 13:53, Jim Whitehead wrote:\n> \n> You have not explained why the increase in CO2 concentrations is not\n> contributing to increasing global temperature.\n\n\nThere are a number of reasons to think that CO2 is not important to\ncontrolling global temperature and that much of the CO2 increase may not\nbe anthropogenic. Some recent research points worth mentioning:\n\nRecent high-resolution studies of historical CO2 concentrations and\ntemperatures over hundreds of thousands of years have shown a modest\ncorrelation between the two. In a number of cases, CO2 level increases\nare not in phase with temperature increases and actually trail the\nincrease in temperature by a short time i.e. increases in temperature\npreceded increases in CO2 concentrations. The more studies that are done\nof the geological record, the more it seems that CO2 concentrations are\ncorrelated with temperature increases, but are not significantly\ncausative. There is a lot of evidence that CO2 levels are regulated in a\nfairly stable fashion. I don't believe anyone really has an\nauthoritative answer as to exactly how this works yet.\n\nWith respect to absolute CO2 concentrations, it is also important to\npoint out that our best data to date suggests that they follow a fairly\nregular cycle with a period of about 100,000 years. At previous cycle\npeaks, the concentrations were similar to what they are now. If this\ncycle has any validity (and we only have good data for 4-5 complete\ncyclical periods, but which look surprisingly regular in shape and\ntime), then we should be almost exactly at a peak right now. As it\nhappens, current CO2 concentrations are within 10% of other previous\ncyclical concentration peaks for which we have good data. In other\nwords, we may be adding to the CO2 levels, but it looks a lot like we\nwould be building a molehill on top of a mountain in the historical\nrecord. At the very least, there is nothing anomalous about current CO2\nconcentrations.\n\nAlso, CO2 levels interact with the biosphere in a manner that ultimately\naffects temperature. Again, the interaction is not entirely\npredictable, but this is believed to be one of the regulating negative\nfeedback systems mentioned above.\n\nLast, as greenhouse gases go, CO2 isn't particularly potent, although it\nmakes up for it in volume in some cases. Gases such as water and\nmethane have a far greater impact as greenhouse gases on a per molecule\nbasis. Water vapor may actually be the key greenhouse gas, something\nthat CO2 only indirectly effects through its interaction with the\nbiosphere.\n\nCO2 was an easy mark for early environmentalism, but all the recent\nstudies and data I've seen gives me the impression that it is largely a\npassenger on the climate ride rather than the driver. I certainly don't\nthink it is a healthy fixation if we're actually interested in\nunderstanding warming trends.\n\nCheers,\n\n-James Rogers\n jamesr@best.com\n\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Owen Byrne wrote:\n\n> What a load of crap. Politics are somehow more muddy now? I'd say that\n> its considerably\n> clearer - the vast majority of people feel disenfranchised, and the\n> common practice of\n> putting protestors in boxes is done usually to hide them from TV\n> cameras, visiting dignitaries,\n> etc, further exacerbating those feelings.\n> \"Unpeaceably disrupting political rallies\" is now usually done by police\n> with riot gear and pepper spray.\n> \n> We had a good one here a month or so ago - a few people peaceably\n> strayed from the permit area,\n> which was nearly a mile from the site of the meeting of finance\n> ministers held here (the motorcade drove\n> by it for about 10 seconds), and were immediately gassed, beaten and\n> arrested. Not very muddied at all.\n\n\nWhat does that exactly have to do with the statement that\ndistruption of peacable political assembly has become\na common practice disruption tool? It's an observation\nnot a judgement, comment, approval. You've focused on the\nword \"muddy\" to use it in a different context than the one\nI posted.\n\nMaybe the distinction I was trying to make was too subtle and\nI was trying to be too clever with my writing this morning.\nLet me summarize the important parts of my post for you: I\nhave a premise that there is a difference between free and protected\nspeech and action. I think O'Neill on his soapbox doesn't\nunderstand the distinction.\n\nAll better? \n\nGreg\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\nThis is something new, or at least new to me: \n\n Politspam (n): Using a spam engine for political purposes.\n\nIn this particular case, to get back at the University of Groningen.\nThe content suggests its more prank than vigilante activism (in the\nold days we used to say \"someone left their terminal unguarded\")\nbut what's interesting is that it's not trying to sell me anything\nor lead me to any for-fee service, it's just trying to spread\na meme that RUG is evil.\n\n>>>>> \"w\" == wpin <lslifriend> writes:\n\n w> Those who want to leave for the Netherlands to carry on any\n w> kind of education,including for PHD, must be careful\n w> . Especially the university of Groningen(RUG) should be\n w> avoided. This university was once a good one but now it has\n w> lost its reputation. ... Studying is a good investment in time\n w> and money. So invest in the right place and time. You are\n w> warned.\n\n w> Sincerely yours,\n w> hyohxsycjlakdbmhjpiouupngoqrm\n\nHas anyone else started to receive either consumer vigilante or\npolitical activism messages via spam methods?\n\n-- \nGary Lawrence Murphy - garym@teledyn.com - TeleDynamics Communications\n - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ -\n \"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.\" (Picasso)\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\"Groove really has people running scared\"\n\n....oh shit here comes that Groove thingy, run for your life ;-)\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Mr. FoRK\" <fork_list@hotmail.com>\nTo: <fork@example.com>\nSent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:12 PM\nSubject: Documentum Acquires E-Room, Melding Content, Collaboration\n\n\n>\n> Don't know much about eRoom - but there is the magic phrase 'collaborate\nin\n> real-time'... Groove really has people running scared. Wonder if any users\n> actually /benefit/ from collaborating in real-time.\n>\n>\n> ===\n> http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/INW20021004S0001\n>\n> Content-management vendor Documentum said late Thursday it plans to\nacquire\n> privately held e-Room Technologies in a deal worth about $100 million.\n>\n> Documentum will issue approximately 7.7 million shares of its common stock\n> and pay about $12.6 million in cash for all of the outstanding shares of\n> eRoom.\n>\n> Documentum makes a platform for enterprise-wide content management. ERoom\n> makes tools for enterprise collaboration. Its customers include Airbus,\n> Bausch & Lomb, Ford Motor Co., and Sony.\n>\n> Documentum announced plans this summer to deliver a new Collaboration\n> Edition of its content-management suite. ERoom was already integrating its\n> tools to the Documentum platform, making an acquisition an easy target,\n> according to Documentum president and CEO Dave DeWalt.\n>\n> With the upcoming joint product, customers will be able to collaborate in\n> real-time via virtual workspaces, sharing schedules, resources, and even\n> jointly creating content.\n>\n> Content creation and management has always been a collaborative task, but\n> workflow has usually been delivered via a Web browser interface or even\n> simple e-mail -- and rarely in real-time.\n>\n> For now, Documentum will sell the eRoom platform and its own\n> content-management system through combined sales channels. Further\n> integration is planned down the line, the companies said.\n>\n>\n>\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote:\n\n\n--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly\n--]nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion \"Status: False\".\n--]\n\nSo thats the trick, just let any anecdotal utterances you LIKE be deemed\ntrue until proven false, and then hold other data to the opposite\nstandard...\n\nYeah, I see how that could be a handy tool RH.\n\n\n(before teh lablemongers are out and about, I could give a shit what\nBubbaU utters, its all shite. Kill your idols folks, your slips are\nshowing)\n\n-tom\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Heh. RTFM.. Sorry about that.\n\nYep, that did the trick.\n\nThanks for the help!\n\nRegards,\nPaul Fries\npaul@cwie.net\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n[mailto:spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of\nVince Puzzella\nSent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:23 AM\nTo: Paul Fries; spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: RE: [SAtalk] 2.41/2.50 spamd/spamc problem\n\ndefang_mime 0\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Paul Fries [mailto:paul@cwie.net] \nSent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:12 PM\nTo: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\nSubject: [SAtalk] 2.41/2.50 spamd/spamc problem\n\n\nI noticed that after upgrading to 2.41 (or 2.50) from 2.31, the -F\noption was removed from spamd. \n\nThis is fine because all of the HTML format mail seems to arrive\nproperly. However, messages that get tagged as Spam arrive as just html\nsource.\n\nIs there any way around this? I would like all HTML/RTF messages to\nretain their formatting even if they are flagged as spam. I would\naccomplish this on 2.31 by using the \"-F 0\" flag when starting spamd.\n\nThanks!\n\nRegards,\nPaul Fries\npaul@cwie.net\nCWIE LLC \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ["Your message was not delivered to\n \n daz@jpci.net\n \nThis mail message contains banned or potentially offensive text.\n\n", ["", ""], [["Odhiambo Washington wrote:\n> After being bitten by bugs in 2.41, I've downgraded to 2.31 but now spamd\n> spews errors like I've never seen before:\n\nDelete the contents of /usr/local/share/spamassassin and reinstall. There\nare some files that were new to v2.4x, so they won't be overwritten when you\ndowngrade.\n\nrOD.\n\n\n--\n\"Fast! Fast! Faster! Bring the beef, you bastard,\"\ncries Paula Abdul, \"and don't forget the pasta!\"\n\nDoing the blogging thang again at http://www.groovymother.com/ <<\n", "…"]]] |
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| easy_ham | "Hey Folks\n\nI know this question gets asked a lot, but I haven't seen an answer lately.\n\nAny idea when a user will be able to view his own trust rating? What are\nthe plans for this? Will it be built into the client, web based, emailed\nto you nightly? If you could share your brainstorming on the subject, I\nwould greatly appreciate it.\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I did something crudely along those lines for VMS VAX maybe 13 years\nago; there is at least one product that does it for PC though I don't\nrecall its name. It is also handy for cases where you have a CD image\nof some filesystem (or some other image of a filesystem) that is\nintrinsically readonly but whose filesystem will not accept (or is\nnot graceful) readonly storage. It is also more or less necessary\nif you want to work with WORM file structures, which are older still.\nThere have been a number of filesystems for those dating back to the\nearly 1980s if not before.\n\nA generic facility of the type you mention is also one way to implement\nsnapshots on top of an existing filesystem. The written information\nmust (obviously!) be seekable so you can provide the illusion that you\nwrote to the storage. A device level implementation is however perfectly\nadequate.\n\nIt does not, of course, distinguish for you what should have been changed\nand what should not. If you truly know a device (or perhaps a partition)\nmust not be written, it can be simpler to either return error on writes,\nor to just return a fake success on writes yet discard the data. (NTFS\nlives with the latter strategy just fine from my experiments. I have not\ntried it on extf3 or reiser.) \n\nBTW, think about your mention of RAID and consider the complexity of\nwriting to RAID4 or RAID5...\nI would contend that with cheaper storage these days, it makes little sense\nto use RAID, save for shadowing and possibly striping. Those at least do\nnot have the complexity and slowup dangers that higher RAID levels have, and\nthere is not a need to save the cost of disk so much where a single disk\nmay hold 200 gigs and up. Why not dedicate another whole disk to fault\nrecovery\nand lose the complexity and slow write (sometimes) of RAID?\n\nGlenn Everhart\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: bmord@icon-nicholson.com [mailto:bmord@icon-nicholson.com]\nSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:04 PM\nTo: Webappsec Securityfocus.Com; SECPROG Securityfocus\nSubject: use of base image / delta image for automated recovery from\nattacks\n\n\nHi,\n\nI was inspired by a mode of operation supported by VMWare. You can have a\nbase disk image shared by multiple virtual machine (vm) instances. That base\nimage is never altered by a vm instance. Instead, each vm instance writes\nchanges to its own \"redo\" log. Future hard disk reads from that vm instance\nincorporate both the base image and the appropriate redo log to present the\ncurrent disk image for that specific virtual machine.\n\nThis is described here (thanks to Duane for providing this link on the\nhoneypots mailing list)\nhttp://www.vmware.com/support/reference/common/disk_sharing.html\n\nCould this basic concept be used to easily make self-fixing client/server\napplications that efficiently and automatically recover from most attacks,\neven before those attacks have been discovered? Here is what I imagine.\n\nThe physical architectures of most production client/server systems are\nlayered. For example, your basic web application might have a web server\nrunning Apache, connected to an application server running some J2EE or .Net\nbusiness logic, connected to a database server for persistence. The only one\nof these whose disk image really should evolve over time is the database\nserver, and even here you often put the static RDBMS software on one\npartition and the changeable datafiles on another partition. It is only the\npartition with the volatile datafiles that must be allowed to change from\none boot to the next. Other paritions may need to be writable for, say, swap\nspace, but these changes could be eliminated on each reboot.\n\nWhen someone cracks this system, they will probably change an image that\nshouldn't be changed. E.g., they might leverage a buffer overflow in IIS or\nApache to install a trojan or a backdoor on the more exposed web server. But\nwhat if the web server ran off a base image, writing changes to a \"delta\" or\n\"redo\" partition? And then what if every night it automatically erased the\nredo partition and rebooted? The downtime involved for each machine would be\nminimal, because it is only deleting data - rather than restoring from\nbackup. In a system with redundant web servers for load balancing or high\navailability, this could be scheduled in a way such that the system is\nalways accessible. This base/redo partition concept could be implemented at\nthe same level as a feature of hardware RAID, allowing for greater\nperformance, reliability, and hack resistance. This concept could also be\napplied to the application servers, and even the database server partitions\n(except for those partitions which contain the table data files, of course.)\n\nDoes anyone do this already? Or is this a new concept? Or has this concept\nbeen discussed before and abandoned for some reasons that I don't yet know?\nI use the physical architecture of a basic web application as an example in\nthis post, but this concept could of course be applied to most server\nsystems. It would allow for the hardware-separation of volatile and\nnon-volatile disk images. It would be analogous to performing nightly\nghosting operations, only it would be more efficient and involve less (or\nno) downtime.\n\nThanks for any opinions,\nBen\n\n\n**********************************************************************\nThis transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you\n**********************************************************************\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "[Barry A. Warsaw, gives answers and asks questions]\n\nHere's the code that produced the header tokens:\n\n x2n = {}\n for x in msg.keys():\n x2n[x] = x2n.get(x, 0) + 1\n for x in x2n.items():\n yield \"header:%s:%d\" % x\n\n\nSome responses:\n\n> 0.01 19 3559 'header:X-Mailman-Version:1'\n> 0.01 19 3559 'header:List-Id:1'\n> 0.01 19 3557 'header:X-BeenThere:1'\n>\n> These three are definitely MM artifacts, although the second one\n> /could/ be inserted by other list management software (it's described\n> in an RFC).\n\nSince all the ham came from Mailman, and only 19 spam had it, it's quite\nsafe to assume then that I should ignore these for now.\n\n> 0.01 0 3093 'header:Newsgroups:1'\n> 0.01 0 3054 'header:Xref:1'\n> 0.01 0 3053 'header:Path:1'\n>\n> These aren't MM artifacts, but are byproducts of gating a message off\n> of an nntp feed. Some of the other NNTP-* headers are similar, but I\n> won't point them out below.\n\nI should ignore these too then.\n\n> 0.01 19 2668 'header:List-Unsubscribe:1'\n> 0.01 19 2668 'header:List-Subscribe:1'\n> 0.01 19 2668 'header:List-Post:1'\n> 0.01 19 2668 'header:List-Help:1'\n> 0.01 19 2668 'header:List-Archive:1'\n>\n> RFC recommended generic listserve headers that MM injects.\n\nDitto.\n\n> So why do you get two entries for this one?\n>\n> 0.99 519 0 'header:Received:8'\n> 0.99 466 1 'header:Received:7'\n\nRead the code <wink>. The first line counts msgs that had 8 instances of a\n'Received' header, and the second counts msgs that had 7 instances. I\nexpect this is a good clue! The more indirect the mail path, the more of\nthose thingies we'll see, and if you're posting from a spam trailer park in\nTasmania you may well need to travel thru more machines.\n\n> ...\n> Note that header names are case insensitive, so this one's no\n> different than \"MIME-Version:\". Similarly other headers in your list.\n\nIgnoring case here may or may not help; that's for experiment to decide.\nIt's plausible that case is significant, if, e.g., a particular spam mailing\npackage generates unusual case, or a particular clueless spammer\nmisconfigures his package.\n\n> 0.02 65 3559 'header:Precedence:1'\n>\n> Could be Mailman, or not. This header is supposed to tell other\n> automated software that this message was automated. E.g. a replybot\n> should ignore any message with a Precedence: {bulk|junk|list}.\n\nRule of thumb: if Mailman inserts a thing, I should ignore it. Or, better,\nI should stop trying to out-think the flaws in the test data and get better\ntest data instead!\n\n> 0.50 4 0 'header:2:1'\n>\n> !?\n> ...\n> 0.50 0 2 'header:'\n>\n> Heh?\n\nI sucked out all the wordinfo keys that began with \"header:\". The last line\nthere was probably due to unrelated instances of the string \"header:\" in\nmessage bodies. Harder to guess about the first line.\n\n> ...\n> Some headers of course are totally unreliable as to their origin. I'm\n> thinking stuff like MIME-Version, Content-Type, To, From, etc, etc.\n> Everyone sticks those in.\n\nThe brilliance of Anthony's \"just count them\" scheme is that it requires no\nthought, so can't be fooled <wink>. Header lines that are evenly\ndistributed across spam and ham will turn out to be worthless indicators\n(prob near 0.5), so do no harm.\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "[Skip Montanaro, to Anthony Baxter]\n> ...\n> Accordingly, I wrote unheader.py, which is mostly a ripoff of something\n> someone else posted to python-dev or c.l.py within the last week or so to\n> strip out SA-generated headers.\n\nUnless I've grown senile tonight, you got it from Anthony to begin with.\nPlease check it in to project, and add a short blurb to README.txt!\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "[Skip Montanaro]\n> Because I get mail through several different email addresses, I\n> frequently get duplicates (or triplicates or more-plicates) of\n> various spam messages. In saving spam for later analysis I haven't\n> always been careful to avoid saving such duplicates.\n>\n> I wrote a script some time ago to try an minimize the duplicates I see\n> by calculating a loose checksum, but I still have some duplicates.\n> Should I delete the duplicates before training or not?\n\nPeople just can't stop thinking <wink>. The classifier should work best\nwhen trained on a wholly random spattering of real life. If real life\ncontains duplicates, then that's what the classifier should see.\n\n> Would people be interested in the script? I'd be happy to extricate\n> it from my local modules and check it into CVS.\n\nSure! I think it's relevant, but maybe for another purpose. Paul Svensson\nis thinking harder about real people <wink> than the rest of us, and he may\nbe able to get use out of approaches that identify closely related spam.\nFor example, some amount of spam is going to end up in the ham training data\nin real life use, and any sort of similarity score to a piece of known spam\nmay be an aid in finding and purging it.\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "use Perl Daily Headline Mailer\n\nPerl \"Meetup\"\n posted by ziggy on Thursday September 05, @19:12 (news)\n http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/05/2316234\n\n\n\n\nCopyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved.\n\n\n======================================================================\n\nYou have received this message because you subscribed to it\non use Perl. To stop receiving this and other\nmessages from use Perl, or to add more messages\nor change your preferences, please go to your user page.\n\n\thttp://use.perl.org/my/messages/\n\nYou can log in and change your preferences from there.\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "use Perl Daily Newsletter\n\nIn this issue:\n * Installing Perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X 10.2\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n| Installing Perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X 10.2 |\n| posted by pudge on Thursday August 29, @15:03 (releases) |\n| http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/29/193225 |\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n[0]Morbus Iff writes \"The newest release of Apple's operating system, Mac\nOS X v10.2 (Jaguar) comes with perl 5.6.0, surprisingly old for their\nlatest offering. In an [1]Internet Developer article, I walk the Mac OS X\nuser through installing perl 5.8.0, and as well provide a brief\nintroduction to CPAN.\"\n\nDiscuss this story at:\n http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=02/08/29/193225\n\nLinks:\n 0. mailto:morbus@disobey.com\n 1. http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html\n\n\n\nCopyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved.\n\n\n======================================================================\n\nYou have received this message because you subscribed to it\non use Perl. To stop receiving this and other\nmessages from use Perl, or to add more messages\nor change your preferences, please go to your user page.\n\n\thttp://use.perl.org/my/messages/\n\nYou can log in and change your preferences from there.\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/24#When:7:38:08AM\nDate: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:38:08 GMT\n\n9/2/00[1]: \"In the overworked world of Web development, there's no time to \nstudy, there's only time to do.\"\n\n[1] http://davenet.userland.com/2000/09/02/whatToDoAboutRss#rssIsAboutSimplicity\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/25#When:2:46:48PM\nDate: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:46:48 GMT\n\nJeremy Zawodny[1] on life in Silicon Valley: \"I came out here to work at a \ncompany that has since forgotten how to innovate and take risks. Yippie.\"\n\n[1] http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000188.html#000188\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/hyatt/#85377159\nDate: Not supplied\n\nTest your knowledge with this set of movie quotes. I'll be back in a couple of \ndays with the answers.\n\n\n- Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? \n\n- Any fool can get into college. Only a select few can say the same about \nAmanda Jones.\n\n- My dear, since Eve picked the apple, no woman has ever been taken entirely \nunawares.\n\n- This is Tommy. He tells people he's named after a gun, but I know he's named \nafter a famous 19th century ballerina.\n\n- When one woman strikes at the heart of another she seldom misses, and the \nwound is invariably fatal.\n\n- I've never been alone with a man before, even with my dress on. With my \ndress off, it's _most_ unusual.\n\n- You're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't \nwant to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the hotels, I don't \nwant you near my house. When you see our mother, I want to know a day in \nadvance, so I won't be there.\n\n- Kids: 10 seconds of joy, 30 years of misery.\n\n- Sucking all the marrow out of life doesn't mean choking on the bone.\n\n- A hundred million terrorists in the world and I gotta kill one with feet \nsmaller than my sister.\n\n- Mother, I do not need a blind date. Particularly not with some verbally \nincontinent spinster who drinks like a fish, smokes like a chimney and dresses \nlike her mother.\n\n- Have you ever seen a body like this before in your life?\nShe happens to be my daughter.\nOh. Then I guess you have.\n\n- I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is.\n\n- Of course, you won't be able to lie on your back for a while but then you \ncan lie from any position, can't you?\n\n- The fact that you prevented it from happening doesn't change the fact that \nit was going to happen.\n\n- Women need a reason for having sex. Men just need a place.\n\n- You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are \nthe same decaying organic matter as everything else.\n\n- Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue! \n\n- The issue is not whether you are paranoid. Look around you Lenny. The issue \nis whether you are paranoid enough.\n\n- Inconceivable!\nYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. \n\nEnjoy.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-1,8171676,1440/\nDate: Not supplied\n\nDetailed guidelines for vaccinating all 288 million citizens within five days \nof an outbreak are being dispatched to every state\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-5,8305902,1717/\nDate: 2002-09-27T09:52:31+01:00\n\n(Stuff.co.nz)\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Al white wrote:\n\n >erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard...\n\nIt runs Solaris 8 x86 as standard.\n(I was joking Al)\n\nM.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 19:27, Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga wrote:\n> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote:\n> > I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker\n> > or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit\n> > more palmos friendly?\n> \n> \tYou could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/).\n> It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to\n> postscript and png.\n\nalso there's catdoc and wv for Word --> text conversions. actually, wv\nconsists of wvWare, which as the manpage says \"converts word documents\ninto other formats such as PS, PDF, HTML, LaTeX, DVI, ABW\". HTML would\nprobably be the best format for use with Plucker/SiteScooper, depending\non how good the DOC --> HTML conversion is. i haven't used either in\nover a year as AbiWord or OpenOffice work well enough. (prefer AbiWord\nfor it's light-weight size, but OpenOffice has the better DOC importer.)\n\ndon't know which of these are better or worse than the other, but i\nfigure, \"the more the merrier\". ;-)\n\n> You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you\n> have x installed.\n\nAbiWord supports exporting to PalmDoc (.pdb) which is about as\nPalmOS-friendly as you can get. never tried/needed it, but it's listed\nthere in the \"Save As\" dialog box.\n\nWine (or CrossOver Office, if you already have it) may support Word\nViewer (free download from Microsoft), but didn't a year or so ago when\ni last tried. Word Viewer is what i used back in the day to convert\nWord 97 docs to Word 95, as you could display the Word 97 doc and copy &\npaste the text (with formatting) into Word 95, which was the only\nversion of Word that i had. anyways, a little nostalgia.\n\n> > I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;\n> > I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some\n> > other more friendly format.\n\ni have a windows (dual-boot) machine, but it only get used by my\nsignificant other and for burning multi-session cd-r/rw. (is there any\nlinux gui app that supports cdrecord's multi-session feature?) since\nOpenOffice, i've been able to edit Word docs flawlessly (or at least the\nsimple Word documents i receive from others).\n\nanyways...\n-- \n\nPLEASE REQUEST PERMISSION TO REDISTRIBUTE\n AUTHOR'S COMMENTS OR EMAIL ADDRESS.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSitescooper-talk mailing list\nSitescooper-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sitescooper-talk\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000202.html\nDate: 2002-09-29T12:01:43-08:00\n\nI like Kasia's latest idea. Let's all try that. But not on the same day. Maybe \nwe should all use our birthdays as the basis. Since I was born on June 4th, \nI'll be stupid on the 4th of every...\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-1,8390119,1717/\nDate: 2002-09-30T11:09:23+01:00\n\n[IMG: http://www.newsisfree.com/Images/fark/smh.com.au.gif ([smh.com.au])]\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-1,8408636,1717/\nDate: 2002-09-30T21:20:25+01:00\n\n(Poynter.org)\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://boingboing.net/#85511996\nDate: Not supplied\n\nMena sez: \"We've set up a TrackBack ping repository for attendees of O'Reilly's \nMac OS X Conference. If you're using Movable Type or a TrackBack-enabled tool, \nyou can ping the category relating to your OSXCon-specific weblog post.\" Link\n[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Mena[3]!_)\n\n[1] http://www.movabletype.org/osxcon/\n[2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/Eg8fKLFxsFr\n[3] http://www.dollarshort.org/\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-3,8477945,1440/\nDate: Not supplied\n\nThe launch is postponed until at least Monday - the first time bad weather in \nHouston has delayed a shuttle flight\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-5,8553538,1440/\nDate: Not supplied\n\nViral antibodies are identified in a one-month-old baby, as the US death toll \nrises sharply\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-0,8613671,159/\nDate: 2002-10-06T18:12:49+01:00\n\nArmed with a cult film licence and the knowledge that The Italian Job already \nhad a huge fan base in the UK, Pixelogic set out to make a game that would not \nonly do the film justice but would also be a game worth playing.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://boingboing.net/#85534316\nDate: Not supplied\n\nLast Friday's Christie's auction of original physics manuscripts included \noriginal works by Einstein, Curie, Newton and other physics rock-stars. The \nEinstein (which included an early attempt to prove relativity) went to an \nanonymous bidder for $500,000. Link[1] Discuss[2]\n\n[1] http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=0007B1D4-EC91-1D9D-815A809EC5880000\n[2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/uiCM4MRSGBDC\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-3,8688977,215/\nDate: 2002-10-09T03:15:13+01:00\n\n*Media:* Move could lead to Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation being outvoted on \nmajor board decisions.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-4,8723996,215/\nDate: 2002-10-10T03:26:55+01:00\n\n*Media:* *Peter Preston* on the question that split the Guardian into two - \nbroadsheet and tabloid.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "John P. Looney wrote:\n>>There is absolutely no way to use a conventional 3.5\" drive with a\n>>laptop directly.\n> Ah, they told me that about my A1200.\n> \n> Worked a charm. Until I dropped the disk one day onto concrete.\n\nGo on. Tell them how long the /first/ one lasted.\n\nI vote external firewire if the laptop has the ports for it.\n\nPaul.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "John P. Looney wrote:\n> I've two directories, that once upon a time contained the same files.\n> \n> Now, they don't.\n> \n> Is there a tool to merge the two - create a new directory where if the\n> files are the same, they aren't changed, if they are different, the one\n> with the most recent datestamp is used...\n\nJust for the record mc has a nice directory\ncomparison function. This is really nice\nwhen using the ftp VFS for e.g. Of course\nif you use something like ftpfs you can use\nthe previously mentioned tools.\n\nPádraig.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Inn Share <shareinnn@yahoo.com> writes:\n\n> Hi,all:\n> \n> Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n> root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> \n> Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my\n> root all most full.\n\nfind / -xdev -type f -exec du -sk {} \\; | sort -rn | head -5\n\n -xdev will stop find recursing into other filesystems.\n\nCheers\nTiarnan\n\n\n-- \nTiarnán Ó Corráin\nConsultant / System Administrator\nCMG Wireless Data Solutions Ltd.\nTel.: +353 21 4933200\nFax: +353 21 4933201\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi all,\n\nI've decided at last to test the ALSA sound drivers. As usual the result is\nthat I've spent much more time repackaging the darn thing than actually\ntesting the functionalities or trying to hear the great sound quality\npeople seem to think it outputs... but hey, some of you will benefit from\nthat, right? ;-)\n\nI've got the whole thing working on a Valhalla system, but the packages\nshould easily install or at least recompile on Enigma, Limbo/(null) and\nmaybe others, who knows ;-)\n\nHere are quick instructions for those of you that wish to try it out :\n- Recompile the \"alsa-driver\" source rpm for your running kernel\n (you can install the binary package if you're using the i686 2.4.18-10)\n- Install this \"alsa-driver\" package\n- Install the \"alsa-libs\" package\n- Install the \"alsa-utils\" package\n\nNow go to this URL and find out what you need to change in your\n/etc/modules.conf file to replace the default OSS driver loading :\nhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/\n(very complete and very good documentation!)\nHopefully you'll see that your card *is* supported ;-)\n\nReboot, or remove by hand your current sound modules (you'll probably need\nto stop many applications to free the sound resource...) \"by hand\" and\ninsert the new ones. If all is well you've got ALSA working! (\"dmesg\" to\ncheck is a good idea), you now just need to adjust the volume levels with\ne.g. aumix and alsamixer because everything is muted by default.\n\nWith \"aplay\" you can already test files to see if you hear anything. You\ncan also install the XMMS plugin (seems to make my XMMS segfault on exit...\nhmmm, but maybe it's another plugin) to listen to your good ol' mp3\nfiles... that's it!\n\nIt really isn't complicated, and has never been from what I see. The only\nthing I disliked was to have to install from source... but as I can't\nimagine myself doing that ;-) I've repackaged everything cleanly. Even the\n/dev entries are included in the rpm package (and *not* created by an ugly\n%post script, I insist!) and seamlessly integrate into the /etc/makedev.d\nstructure. There are also a few other noticeable differences with the\ndefault provided ALSA spec files, for example I've split alsa-lib's\ndevelopment files into an alsa-lib-devel package and included static\nlibraries... there are others of course (oh yes, the kernel version against\nwhich the \"alsa-driver\" package is compiled gets neatly integrated in the\nrpm release, so does the architecture!).\n\nI'm open to any comments or suggestions about these packages!\n\nDownload :\nhttp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/alsa/\n\nCurrent spec files :\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-driver/alsa-driver.spec\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.spec\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-utils/alsa-utils.spec\n(All others, patches etc. : http://freshrpms.net/builds/ )\n\nMatthias\n\nPS: As an extra bonus, I've also recompiled xine with alsa support! Simply\nrun \"xine -A alsa09\" and off you go! It may even support 5.1 and S/PDIF ;-)\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.57 0.42 0.42, AC on-line, battery charging: 29% (1:55)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "While I was playing with the past issues, it annoyed me that there was\nno easy way to make the log stop growing (I don't mean to truncate it,\nI mean to just freeze it for a while).\n\nThe following patch adds a new button to the log window, which allows\nthe log to be switched on/off (the button says \"Disable\" when the\nlog is enabled, and the button disables it, and \"Enable\" when the log\nis frozen, and the button enables it again).\n\nkre\n\n--- main.tcl\tWed Aug 21 15:01:48 2002\n+++ /usr/local/lib/exmh-2.5/main.tcl\tWed Aug 28 17:36:59 2002\n@@ -385,6 +385,9 @@\n \tExmhLogCreate\n \twm withdraw $exmh(logTop)\n }\n+ if {! $exmh(logWrite)} {\n+\treturn\n+ }\n if [info exists exmh(log)] {\n \tcatch {\n #\t $exmh(log) insert end \" [bw_delta] \"\n@@ -407,6 +410,9 @@\n set exmh(logWindow) 1\n Exwin_Toplevel .log \"Exmh Log\" Log\n set exmh(logTop) .log\n+ set exmh(logDisableBut) \\\n+\t[Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but swap \"Disable\" ExmhLogToggle]\n+ set exmh(logWrite) 1\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but trunc \"Truncate\" ExmhLogTrunc\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but save \"Save To File\" ExmhLogSave\n set exmh(logYview) 1\n@@ -457,6 +463,12 @@\n } msg] {\n \tExmh_Status \"Cannot save log: $msg\" error\n }\n+}\n+proc ExmhLogToggle {} {\n+ global exmh\n+\n+ set exmh(logWrite) [expr ! $exmh(logWrite)]\n+ $exmh(logDisableBut) configure -text [lindex {\"Enable \" Disable} $exmh(logWrite)]\n }\n #### Misc\n \n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "--- In forteana@y..., \"Martin Adamson\" <martin@s...> wrote:\n> For an alternative, and rather more factually based, rundown on \nHamza's \n> career, including his belief that all non Muslims in Yemen should \nbe murdered \n> outright:\n> \n> http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=ia&ID=IA7201\n\nAnd we know how unbiased MEMRI is, don't we....\n\nhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.\nhtml\n\nRob\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi,\n\nsome time now the following messages were haunting me:\n\n automount[11593]: attempting to mount entry /home/dude\n\nIt just came to my attention, that only freshrpm benefitting hosts showed this\nup. I grepped through the binaries and found referrences to /home/dude.\n\n# grep /home/dude /usr/bin/*\nBinary file /usr/bin/aaxine matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gentoo matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gphoto2 matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gtkam matches\n...\n\nI am now relaxed again ;), and pass this info on. Probably Matthias Saou\nhimself is \"dude\", and some package has hardwired a path in his build\ndirectory. It would be nice to find out which and fix it, but I am using too\nmany of the freshrpm suite to narrow it down.\n\nRegards, Axel.\n-- \nAxel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Not fortean, but a moment in time all the same...\n\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/2220972.stm\n\n\nBetamax video recorders are finally being phased out almost 20 years after\nlosing the battle for dominance of the home video market to VHS. \nBetamax's manufacturer, Sony, has announced that it will make only 2,000\nmore machines for the Japanese market. \n\nThey have not been on sale in the rest of the world since 1998. \n\n \nVHS became the dominant format by the mid-1980s\n \nBetamax was launched in 1975, and won many fans who said it was better\nquality than its VHS rival. \n\nSome 2.3 million Betamax machines were sold worldwide in its peak year,\n1984, but it soon went downhill as VHS became the format of choice for the\nfilm rental industry and in homes. \n\nJust 2,800 machines were sold in the 12 months to March 2002. \n\n\"With digital machines and other new recording formats taking hold in the\nmarket, demand has continued to decline and it has become difficult to\nsecure parts,\" Sony said in a statement. \n\nSony said it would continue to offer repairs and manufacture tapes for the\nformat. \n\nThe professional Betamax format, Betacam, is still widely used in the\ntelevision and film industries and will be unaffected. \n\nBut the recent rise of DVDs seems to have put the final nail in the coffin\nfor Betamax home players. \n\nIn the 1980s, many video rental chains preferred the VHS format. \n\nBetamax lovers became so passionate about the format in the face of\ncompetition from VHS that they set up the Betaphile Club in 1988. \n\nThe picture and sound quality of Beta was superior to VHS, Betaphiles say,\nalthough VHS tapes had a longer duration. \n\nA total of 18 million Betamax machines were sold around the world, but no\nnew ones will be made after the end of 2002. \n\nSony is now planning to focus its efforts on new digital technologies. \n See also:\n\n\n \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nKwick Pick Portable Lock Pick - Opens Almost Any Lock!\nLocked out? Try the Kwick Pick. For $17.95, you can open car doors,\ndesk drawers, padlocks, and much more! Never get locked out again!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/O2sPyA/p6kEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | ">\n>> (CNSNews.com) - A pro-family group in Cincinnati that has pressured\n>> two area hotels to stop showing adult pay-per-view movies has vowed\n>to\n>> expand its grass- roots campaign nationwide.\n>\n>\n>Quite right. And while they're at it, they can get that bunch of\n>religious nuts to stop sneaking their book of hate and intolerence\n>into the bedside cabinets, you know, that one with all the telephone\n>humbers in it.\n>\n>Oh, and the Gideon Society can take their bibles back as well.\n>\n>RobinH\n>\n\nWhat are you talking about??? That book is where all the best free porn is!!\n\nPiece of trivia: the thing is so pithy it floats!!\n-- \n\n\nFel\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Of course, everyone knows that Owlman is a work of fuggin` genius\n\nJ\n\n\n\n\n> Hey, I met the wizard bloke from Owlman, who wants to touch me!!\n> \n> Dave\n\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "The Times\n \n \n September 06, 2002\n \n Hitler-style applicant welcomed by parties\n By Roger Boyes\n \n \n \n MANAGERS of Germany’s political parties are having difficulty explaining their\n enthusiastic reaction to a man who applied for membership with letters cribbed\n largely from Mein Kampf, Hitler’s personal manifesto. The incident illustrates\n how indiscriminate parties have become in taking on new members during an\n election campaign, even when their sentiments bear a suspicious resemblance to\n those of the Führer. \n \n “Edmund Stoiber is a thousand times more suited to leading Germany than the\n present Chancellor,” said one letter sent to the Christian Social Union\n headquarters in Ingolstadt. “Chancellor Schröder is doing nothing to stop the\n flood of foreigners who are spreading around our Fatherland,” said the letter,\n signed by a certain Rudolph Lewald. \n \n The CSU immediately spotted a potential member. “Many thanks for your nice\n thoughts,” replied the local party manager, who enclosed an application for\n membership. \n \n The letter used chunks of Hitler’s book, which is still banned in Germany.\n History students have to apply for access to the book in university libraries.\n \n \n “The strongest, the brave and the hardworking will receive the birthright of\n existence, only those who are born weaklings could regard this as offensive,”\n the letter-writer said. “So-called humanity is melting like snow in the March\n sun.” Such phrases were lifted from Mein Kampf, which was written while Hitler\n was in jail after the failed Munich putsch of 1923. \n \n Similar letters, also using the Nazi leader’s words, were sent to the other\n political parties and drew sympathetic responses. “I read your letter with\n great interest and pleasure,” the manager of the Christian Democratic Union in\n Cologne, said. \n \n “Great that you want to join us!” enthused the Green Party headquarters. The\n Free Democrats invited the aspiring party member to a fundraising charity ball\n at which Hans- Dietrich Genscher, the former Foreign Minister, would be the\n star guest. The Social Democrats sent a list of rallies to be attended by\n Gerhard Schröder, the Chancellor. \n \n “I wanted to test how serious parties are about combating right-wing\n extremism,” said the letter-writer, who was in fact the Cologne novelist\n Rainer Popp. “I had no idea that they would be so enthusiastic. \n \n “For the first few days I expected two men in leather coats from the Special\n Branch to knock on my door. Instead only the postman called — with packets of\n election material from zealous political headquarters,” Herr Popp said. \n \n “I was stunned that political parties could react in this way — I reckon I\n would have had the same response if I had signed the letter ‘Adolf Hitler’.”\n \n \n \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hello all,\nFirstly I'd like to thank all of you for the fast and very helpful feedback\nthat I got to my question today. I have one more question though. I\ndownloaded the w3 and url files from the server at the first try thanks to\nthe help that I received today. Then though I tried to build them. I\nstarted by trying the w3 program. I used the following lines which produced\nsome strange results. Would any one be able to set me straight?\n\n./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/usr/local/src/beta/w3 --exec-prefix=/usr/\nlocal/src/beta/w3 --with-url=/url/url\nThat worked fine so I moved to the next step.\nmake\nAt the bottem of the text I got the following messages:\nCannot open load file: /url/url/url-vars.el\nmake[1]: *** [custom-load.el] Error 255\nmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/beta/w3/lisp'\nmake: *** [w3] Error 2\n\nWhen I got around to trying the url package I had no problems. In saying\nthat this doesn't necessarily mean that I was doing it right so below are\nthe commands I used.\n./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/url/url --exec-prefix=/url/url\nfollowed by the commands make and make install.\nThere is no text files which contain help on installing the url package so\nI'm not completely certain if I've used the right method here.\n\nThanks again\n\nDarragh\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Hunt, Bryan\" <B.Hunt@emuse-tech.com>\nTo: <macarthy@iol.ie>; <michael.conry@ucd.ie>\nCc: <ilug@linux.ie>\nSent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:08 PM\nSubject: OT: RE: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n\n\n>\n> speaking of that IDE (weblogic developer) the open source version called\n> eclipse is free from eclipse.org If you are doing java development you\n> need to get this IDE . I've been using it for the last month and it is\n> absolutly superb. Best thing about it is that rather than using swing\n> (which is crap) is that they have their own native widget set called swt.\n>\n> When you run it on windows it uses windows widgets but when you run it on\n> linux it uses gtk, you should see it on gnome 2 ! Absolutely stunning !\n>\n> --B\n>\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:macarthy@iol.ie]\n> Sent: 05 September 2002 16:53\n> To: michael.conry@ucd.ie\n> Cc: ilug@linux.ie\n> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n>\n>\n> This is the best step by step guide to setting up cvs on Redhat..\n>\n>\nhttp://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0205_yu/yu.html?open\n> &l=456,t=gr\n>\n> It is for a particular IBM ide, but the setup and testing of the server is\n> the same for any CVS client\n>\n> Both The \"Using Linux\" and \"Linux in a nutshell\" book by Oreilly have\n> sections on cvs /rcs , and both books are a must buy for any linux newbie\n>\n>\n> Justin\n>\n>\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: ilug-admin@linux.ie [mailto:ilug-admin@linux.ie]On Behalf Of\n> > Michael Conry\n> > Sent: 05 September 2002 16:34\n> > To: Darragh\n> > Cc: ilug@linux.ie\n> > Subject: Re: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n> >\n> >\n> > On 0020 +0100 %{!Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 3:55:16PM +0100}, Darragh wrote:\n> > > Hello,\n> > > I am very new to Linux and need some help on a utility called\n> > cvs. As far\n> > > as I'm aware its a similar protocol to FTP. I need to use it\n> > to download a\n> > > program from :pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/w3.\n> > I am looking\n> > > for information on how to use it. I'll have another look at\n> > the man pages\n> > > but I think I have to set it up before I can download anything.\n> > cvs is really a very different kind of thing to FTP, but the details of\n> > that statement are left as an exercise to the reader (won't show up my\n> > own ignorance that way ;-)\n> > The application you want is cvsclient...\n> > There is documentation here:\n> > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/gnu/docs/cvs/cvsclient_toc.html\n> >\n> > You might get a quick idea of how it works from here:\n> > http://www.sci.muni.cz/~mikulik/gnuplot.html\n> > where he explains how to get cvs gnuplot...\n> > The commands are:\n> >\n> > export\n> > CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.gnuplot.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gnuplot\n> > cvs login\n> > cvs -z3 checkout gnuplot\n> >\n> > Something similar will probably do the job for you. I'm guessing the\n> > following MIGHT work...\n> >\n> > export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/w3\n> > cvs login\n> > cvs -z3 checkout w3\n> >\n> > m\n> > --\n> > Michael Conry Ph.:+353-1-7161987, Web: http://www.acronymchile.com\n> > Key fingerprint = 5508 B563 6791 5C84 A947 CB01 997B 3598 09DE 502C\n> >\n> > --\n> > Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n> > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\n> > information.\n> > List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n> >\n> >\n> >\n>\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation.\n> List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation.\n> List maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n>\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi All,\n\nI have a question which is a bit tricky and was\nwondering of anyone has come across this problem\nbefore or could point me in the right direction.\n\nI am involved in porting a SCO unix application to\nLinux, and we have encountered a problem with the way\nsemaphores are being handled. The application uses\nmulitple processes to run application code with the\nmain process known as the bsh which controls all i/o\nbe it screen, or file i/o, syncronisation is handled\nvia semaphores.\n\nIn certain circumstances the main process and the\napplication child process seem to lock up both waiting\nfor the syncronisation semaphores to change state, I\nhave attached ddd to the processes and it seems that\nthe semaphore code is doing the correct things for\nsyncronisation but the processes stay stuck in the\nsemop() system call.\n\nI have also noticed that if I introduce a slight delay\nbetween changing semaphore states the problem goes\naway, but this causes our entire application to run\nreally sloooww !! lol\n\nIs there anything weird or different with the standard\nimplemenation of semaphores on modern linux that could\ncause a semop() to fail to pick up the change in state\n\nin a semaphore immediately?\n\nSetting sem_flg = IPC_NOWAIT and checking for errno ==\nEAGAIN and recalling semop() if the semop() call fails\n(-1) also fixes the problem but again system\nperformance goes down the toilet.\n\nboth the parent controlling process run as the same\nuid, and the parent creates the semaphores with\npermissions 0666.\n\nAny pointers would be appreciated!\n\nRgds,\n\nColin Nevin \n\n__________________________________________________\nDo You Yahoo!?\nEverything you'll ever need on one web page\nfrom News and Sport to Email and Music Charts\nhttp://uk.my.yahoo.com\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:51:54AM -0700, Elias wrote:\n> So, given the apparent commonality of these occurances, companies appear \n> to be losing a large amount of money by mailing these tiny checks out. \n> Why can't they simply credit the account in question on the next bill? \n> Granted, if an account has been closed there is no such option...\n\nI've been waiting for Hettinga to regale us with one of his well-tuned\nmicro-cash-bearer-settlement-geodesic-finance rants. Bob, you are SO \ndisappointing me.\n\n-- \nnjl\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/printer.jsp?CID=1051-100802B\n\n\n\nThe Disappearing Alliance\nBy Dale Franks 10/08/2002\n\n\nFor over two generations, the countries of Western Europe have been our\nclosest allies. We stood beside each other through the darkest days of the\nCold War as partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. We\ncelebrated with them over the fall of the Soviet Empire and the liberation\nof Eastern Europe from the yoke of communism.\n\nTragically, a generation from now, we may be bitter adversaries.\n\nEurope has increasingly fallen under the spell of a political ideology that\nHudson Institute scholar John Fonte has termed \"progressive\ntransnationalism\". The key doctrines of this form of post-communist\nprogressivism contain some fairly pernicious ideas. Among these are the\ndeconstruction of nationalism, the promotion of post-nationalist ideas of\ncitizenship (i.e. a \"global\" citizenry), a redefinition of democracy, and\nthe pooling of national sovereignty into multinational groups such as the\nUnited Nations.\n\nThe European Union, itself a multinational organization built through the\npooling of sovereignty by European nations, is post-democratic. While there\nis a European Parliament, the EU's power resides mainly in the unelected\nEuropean Commission (EC) and its unelected President, who face few limits\nto their power. Instead of a limited, consensual form of government, where\nelected representatives promulgate constitutional laws, the EU has an\nappointed, oligarchic executive, along with a large attendant bureaucracy,\nwhose orders are not constitutionally limited in any real sense. Moreover,\nthe EU has been unwilling to accept the democratically expressed wishes of\nthe people themselves when those wishes conflict with the results desired\nby the EU's political elite. Both the EC and the European Court of Justice\nregularly overturn the national laws of democratically elected EU member\ngovernments. This is a step backward in Europe's political development.\n\nEuropean criticism of America is on the rise, and the European list of\ncomplaints about America is a long and growing one. They dislike the fact\nthat our republican system of government is not based on proportional\nrepresentation. They hate the fact that our citizens own guns. They despise\nthe fact that we execute murderers. They resent the fact that our economy\nis so large, and that Americans consume so much. They also resent?and fear\n- the fact that we have the ability to project American power anywhere\nin the world.\n\nOn August 9, 2002, Adrian Hamilton wrote a column in the UK's Independent\nnewspaper, in which he identified the US as a rogue state who should be\nrestrained, perhaps by a European military invasion, followed by a decade\nor so of occupation. Fortunately, the article is satirical not because it\nexaggerates the way European progressives view the US, but rather because\nthe impotence of European military power makes the idea of an invasion of\nthe US literally fantastic.\n\nAt least, for now.\n\nDespite the tongue-in-cheek nature of this editorial, however, the fact\nremains that America is increasingly viewed this way by the European\nintellectual and political elite.\n\nThe Europeans actively desire a world where the United Nations keeps in\ncheck the activities of sovereign states. Because they have built such a\nsystem in Europe, they feel it's valid for the rest of the world. America,\nhowever, is the biggest obstacle to such a system. The Europeans cannot\nunderstand why America places a higher value on the ethos of national\nsovereignty and limited, consensual, and constitutional government, than it\ndoes on compliance with international \"norms.\" They view all departures\nfrom such norms as aberrant. Because the UN member states all have an equal\nvote in prescribing international norms, they assume that, since the\nprocess is ostensibly legitimate, the results must be as well. The trouble\nwith this idea, of course, is that it gives the views of non-democratic,\nauthoritarian states the same weight as those of free, democratic\nsocieties. It sanctifies the process, with no regard to the actual results.\n\nThus, they are unable to make any moral distinction between the US refusals\nto join in a given international effort because we wish to preserve the\nliberty of our citizens, and similar refusals from Iraq because its\ndictator wishes to maintain his firm grip on power. Our repeated references\nto the US Constitution, and our unwillingness to bypass its provisions to\ncomply with international norms, are incomprehensible to them. They assume,\ntherefore, that our refusal is based on arrogance, rather than on a\ncommitment to\nconstitutional rights.\n\nNone of this bodes well for the future of Euro-American friendship, or\ncooperation. If the Europeans continue to reject traditional liberalism in\nfavor of the new progressivism, their criticism of the US will rise, while\ntheir tolerance of our differences will fall. Obviously, in such a\npolitical atmosphere, the opportunities for conflict will inevitably\nincrease.\n\nThat thought is frightening enough. Even more frightening, however, is the\nthought that such a conflict might be averted by our own acceptance of the\nnew ideology of transnational progressivism.\n\n\n-- \n-----------------\nR. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com>\nThe Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n\"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\nexperience.\" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "I can't believe I actually read a laugh-out-loud funny profile of the \n*FCC Commissioner* fer crissakes! So the following article comes \nrecommended, a fine explanation of Michael Powell's extraordinary \nequivocation.\n\nOn the other hand, I can also agree with Werbach's Werblog entry... Rohit\n\n> A Trip to F.C.C. World\n>\n> Nicholas Lemann has a piece in the New Yorker this week about FCC \n> Chairman Michael Powell. It's one of the first articles I've seen that \n> captures some of Powell's real personality, and the way he's viewed in \n> Washington. Unfortunately, Lemann ends by endorsing conventional \n> political wisdom. After describing how Powell isn't really a \n> fire-breathing ideological conservative, he concludes that, in essence, \n> Powell favors the inumbent local Bell telephone companies, while a \n> Democratic FCC would favor new entrants. I know that's not how Powell \n> sees the world, and though I disagree with him on many issues, I think \n> he's right to resist the old dichotomy.\n>\n> The telecom collapse should be a humbling experience for anyone who \n> went through it. The disaster wasn't the regulators' fault, as some \n> conservatives argue. But something clearly went horribly wrong, and \n> policy-makers should learn from that experience. Contrary to Lemann's \n> speculation, the upstart carriers won't be successful in a Gore \n> administration, because it's too late. Virtually all of them are dead, \n> and Wall Street has turned off the capital tap for the foreseeable \n> future. Some may survive, but as small players rather than \n> world-dominators. \n>\n> The battle between CLECs and RBOCs that Lemann so astutely parodies is \n> old news. The next important battle in telecom will be between those \n> who want to stay within the traditional boxes, and those who use \n> different models entirely. That's why open broadband networks and open \n> spectrum are so important. Whatever the regulatory environment, there \n> is going to be consolidation in telecom. Those left out in that \n> consolidation will face increasing pressure to create new pipes into \n> the home, or slowly die. The victors in the consolidation game will cut \n> back on innovation and raise prices, which will create further pressure \n> for alternatives. \n>\n> Lemann is right that policy-making looks much drier and more ambiguous \n> on the ground than through the lens of history. But he's wrong in \n> thinking that telecom's future will be something like its past.\n>\n> Friday, October 04, 2002\n> 11:17:11 AM comments {0} \n\n==============================================================\nhttp://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/021007fa_fact\n\nTHE CHAIRMAN\t\nby NICHOLAS LEMANN\nHe's the other Powell, and no one is sure what he's up to.\nNew Yorker, October 8, 2002\n\nLast year, my middle son, in eighth grade and encountering his first \nfairly serious American-history course, indignantly reported that the \nwhole subject was incomprehensible. I was shocked. What about Gettysburg \nand the Declaration of Independence and the Selma-to-Montgomery march? \nJust look at my textbook, he said, and when I did I saw his point. His \nclass had got up to the eighteen-forties. What I expected was a big \nbeefing up of the roles of Sacagawea and Crispus Attucks, and, in-deed, \nthere was some of that. But the main difference between my son's text \nand that of my own childhood was that somebody had made the disastrous \ndecision to devote most of it to what had actually happened in American \nhistory. There were pages and pages on tariffs and bank charters and \nreciprocal trade agreements. I skipped ahead, past the Civil War, hoping \nfor easier going, only to encounter currency floats and the regulation \nof freight rates. Only a few decades into the twentieth century did it \nbecome possible to see the federal government's main function as \nresponding to dramatic crises and launching crusades for social justice, \ninstead of attempting to referee competing claims from economic \ninterests.\n\nEven now, if one were to reveal what really goes on behind the pretty \nspeeches and the sanctimonious hearings in Washington, what you'd find \nis thousands of lawyers and lobbyists madly vying for advantage, not so \nmuch over the public as over each other: agribusiness versus real \nestate, banks versus insurance companies, and so on. The arena in which \nthis competition mainly takes place is regulatory agencies and \ncommissions and the congressional committees that supervise them. It's \nan insider's game, less because the players are secretive than because \nthe public and the press—encouraged by the players, who speak in jargon—\ncan't get themselves interested.\n\nOne corner of Washington might be called F.C.C. World, for the Federal \nCommunications Commission. F.C.C. World has perhaps five thousand \ndenizens. They work at the commission itself, at the House and Senate \ncommerce committees, and at the Washington offices of the companies that \nthe commission regulates. They read Communications Daily (subscription \nprice: $3,695 a year), and every year around Christmastime they \ngrumblingly attend the Chairman's Dinner, at a Washington hotel, where \nthe high point of the evening is a scripted, supposedly self-deprecating \ncomedy routine by the commission's chairman.\n\nOf all the federal agencies and commissions, the F.C.C. is the one that \nAmericans ought to be most interested in; after all, it is involved with \na business sector that accounts for about fifteen per cent of the \nAmerican economy, as well as important aspects of daily life—telephone \nand television and radio and newspapers and the Internet. And right now \nF.C.C. World is in, if not a crisis, at least a very soapy lather, \nbecause a good portion of what the angry public thinks of as the \n\"corporate scandals\" concerns the economic collapse of companies \nregulated by the F.C.C. Qwest, WorldCom, Adelphia, and Global Crossing, \namong others, are (or were) part of F.C.C. World. AOL Time Warner is \npart of F.C.C. World. Jack Grubman, the former Salomon Smith Barney \nanalyst who seems to have succeeded Kenneth Lay, of Enron, as the \nembodiment of the corporate scandals, is part of F.C.C. World. In the \npast two years, companies belonging to F.C.C. World have lost trillions \nof dollars in stock-market valuation, and have collectively served as a \ndead weight pulling down the entire stock market.\n\nThis year, an alarmed and acerbic anonymous memorandum about the state \nof the F.C.C. has been circulating widely within F.C.C. World. It evokes \nF.C.C. World's feverish mood (\"The F.C.C. is fiddling while Rome burns\") \nand suggests why nobody besides residents of F.C.C. World has thought of \nthe commission in connection with the corporate scandals. The sentence I \njust quoted is followed by this explanation: \"The ILECs appear likely to \nenter all l.d. markets within twelve months, while losing virtually no \nresidential customers to attackers since 1996, and suffering about 10% \nmarket share loss in business lines to CLECs.\" It's a lot easier to \nthink about evil C.E.O.s than to decipher that.\n\n\nEven in good times, F.C.C. World pays obsessive attention to the \ncommission's chairman. In bad times, the attention becomes especially \nintense; and when the chairman is a celebrity F.C.C. World devotes \nitself to full-time chairman-watching. The current chairman, Michael \nPowell, is a celebrity, at least by government-official standards, \nbecause he is the only son of Colin Powell, the Secretary of State. \nUnlike his father, he has a kind of mesmerizing ambiguity, which \ngenerates enormous, and at times apoplectically toned, speculation about \nwho he really is and what he's really up to. Powell is young to be the \nhead of a federal agency—he is thirty-nine—and genially charming. \nEverybody likes him. Before becoming chairman, he was for three years \none of the F.C.C.'s five commissioners; not only is he fluent in the \nF.C.C.'s incomprehensible patois, he has a Clintonesque love of the \narcane details of communications policy. He's always saying that he's an \n\"avid moderate.\" And yet he has a rage-inciting quality. One of his \npredecessors as chairman, Reed Hundt, quoted in Forbes, compared Powell \nto Herbert Hoover. Mark Cooper, of the Consumer Federation of America, \ncalls him \"radical and extreme.\" Just as often as he's accused of being \na right-wing ideologue, Powell gets accused of being paralytically \ncautious. \"It ain't about singing 'Kum-Ba-Yah' around the campfire,\" \nanother former chairman, William Kennard, says. \"You have to have an \nanswer.\" One day last spring, Powell, testifying before a Senate \nsubcommittee, delivered an anodyne opening statement, and the \nsubcommittee's chairman, Ernest Hollings, of South Carolina, berated \nhim. \"You don't care about these regulations,\" Hollings said. \"You don't \ncare about the law or what Congress sets down. . . . That's the \nfundamental. That's the misgiving I have of your administration over \nthere. It just is amazing to me. You just pell-mell down the road and \nseem to not care at all. I think you'd be a wonderful executive \nvice-president of a chamber of commerce, but not a chairman of a \nregulatory commission at the government level. Are you happy in your \njob?\"\n\n\"Extremely,\" Powell said, with an amiable smile.\n\n\nOne cannot understand Powell's maddening effect, at least on Democrats \nand liberal activists, without understanding not just the stated purpose \nof the commission he chairs but also its real purpose. The F.C.C. was \ncreated by Congress in 1934, but it existed in prototype well before the \nNew Deal, because it performs a function that is one of the classic easy \ncases for government intervention in the private economy: making sure \nthat broadcasters stick to their assigned spots on the airwaves. Its \nother original function was preventing American Telephone & Telegraph, \nthe national monopoly phone company, from treating its customers \nunfairly. Over the decades, as F.C.C. World grew up into a comfortable, \nwell-established place, the F.C.C. segued into the role of industrial \nsupervision—its real purpose. It was supposed to manage the competition \namong communications companies so that it didn't become too bloody, by \nartfully deciding who would be allowed to enter what line of business. \nIn addition to looking out for the public's interest, the commission \nmore specifically protected the interests of members of Congress, many \nof whom regard the media companies in their districts as the single most \nterrifying category of interest group—you can cross the local bank \npresident and live to tell the tale, but not the local broadcaster. \nAccording to an oft-told F.C.C. World anecdote, President Clinton once \nblocked an attempt to allow television stations to buy daily newspapers \nin the same city because, he said, if the so-and-so who owned the \nanti-Clinton Little Rock Democrat-Gazette had owned the leading TV \nstation in Little Rock, too, Clinton would never have become President.\n\n\nF.C.C. World may have been con tentious, but it was settled, too, \nbecause all the reasonably powerful players had created secure economic \nniches for themselves. Then, in the nineteen-eighties, the successful \nbreakup of A.T. & T.—by far the biggest and most important company the \ncommission regulated—deposited a thick additional sediment of \nself-confidence onto the consciousness of F.C.C. World. A generation \nago, for most Americans, there was one local phone company, one \nlong-distance company, and one company that manufactured telephones, \nwhich customers were not permitted to own—and they were all the same \ncompany. It was illegal to plug any device into a phone line. By the \nmid-nineteen-nineties, there were a dozen economically viable local \nphone companies, a handful of national long-distance companies competing \nto offer customers the lowest price and best service, and stores \neverywhere selling telephone equipment from many manufacturers—and \nmillions of Americans had a fax machine and a modem operating over the \ntelephone lines. A.T. & T. had argued for years that it was a \"natural \nmonopoly,\" requiring protection from economic competition and total \ncontrol over its lines. So much for that argument. Over the same period, \nthe F.C.C. had assisted in the birth of cable television and cell phones \nand the Internet. It was the dream of federal-agency success come true: \nconsumers vastly better served, and the industry much bigger and more \nprosperous, too.\n\nThe next big step was supposed to be the Telecommunications Act of 1996, \none of those massive, endlessly lobbied-over pieces of legislation which \nmost people outside F.C.C. World probably felt it was safe to ignore. \nAlthough the Telecom Act sailed under the rhetorical banner of \nmodernization and deregulation, its essence was a grand interest-group \nbargain, in which the local phone companies, known to headline writers \nas \"baby Bells\" and to F.C.C. World as \"arbocks\" (the pronounced version \nof RBOCs, or regional Bell operating companies), would be permitted to \noffer long-distance service in exchange for letting the long-distance \ncompanies and smaller new phone companies use their lines to compete for \ncustomers. Consumers would win, because for the first time they would \nget the benefits of competition in local service while getting even more \ncompetition than they already had in long distance. But the politics and \neconomics of the Telecom Act (which was shepherded through Congress by \nVice-President Gore) were just as important. Democrats saw the act as \nhelping to reposition them as the technology party—the party that \nbrought the Internet into every home, created hundreds of thousands of \njobs in new companies, and, not least, set off an investment boom whose \nbeneficiaries might become the party's new contributor base. Clinton's \nslogans about the \"information superhighway\" and \"building a bridge to \nthe twenty-first century,\" which, like all Clinton slogans, artfully \nsent different messages to different constituencies, were the rhetorical \ncorrelates of the Telecom Act, and Gore's cruise to the Presidency was \nsupposed to be powered substantially by the act's success.\n\nThe F.C.C. had a crucial role in all this. The arbocks are rich, \naggressive, politically powerful, and generally Republican (though like \nall important interest groups they work with both parties); they \nimmediately filed lawsuits, which wound up tying the hands of their new \ncompetitors in the local phone market for more than three years. Through \nrule-making, enforcement, and litigation, the F.C.C., then headed by \nReed Hundt, who was Gore's classmate at St. Albans, was supposed to keep \nthe arbocks in their cages, so that not only long-distance companies \nlike A.T. & T. and MCI WorldCom but also a whole category of new \ncompanies, \"see-lecks\" (the pronounced version of CLECs, or competitive \nlocal exchange carriers), could emerge. This entailed the regulatory \nequivalent of hand-to-hand combat: the see-leck is supposed to have \naccess to the arbock's switching equipment, the arbock won't give the \nseeleck a key to the room where it's kept, so the see-leck asks the \nF.C.C. to rule that the arbock has to give it the key.\n\nPartly because Hundt assured the see-lecks and other new companies that \nhe would protect them, and partly because of the generally booming \ncondition of the economy then, investment capital flooded into the \nsee-lecks—companies with names like Winstar, Covad, and Teligent—and \ninto other telecommunications companies. Even not obviously related \ntechnology companies like Cisco Systems benefitted from the telecom \nboom: demand for their products was supposed to come from the see-lecks \nand other new players. There would be no conflict between the interests \nof the new telecom companies and those of consumers; as one of Hundt's \nformer lieutenants told me, \"Reed used to joke that my job was to make \nsure that all prices went down and all stocks went up.\"\n\n\nThe years following the passage of the Telecom Act were the peak of the \nboom. Wall Street had its blood up, and that meant not just more \nstartups but also more mergers of existing communications companies: \nTime Warner and AOL decided to throw in together, and A.T. & T. and \nComcast, and so on. (Surely, WorldCom and the other telecom bad guys \nbelieved that their self-dealing, stock-overselling, and creative \naccounting would go unnoticed because the market was so \nundiscriminating.)\n\nBy the time the outcome of the 2000 Presidential election had been \ndetermined, the telecom crash was well under way. Nonetheless, the \nchairmanship of the F.C.C. remained one of the best jobs, in terms of \ninfluence and visibility, available to a career government regulator. \nThree Republicans emerged as candidates: Powell, who was a commissioner; \nHarold Furchtgott-Roth, the farthest-to-the-right commissioner; and \nPatrick Wood, the head of the Texas Public Utility Commission and, as \nsuch, a George W. Bush guy. In Texas, however, Wood had crossed the most \npowerful person in the arbock camp, Edward Whitacre, the C.E.O. of \nS.B.C. Communications, which is headquartered in San Antonio. This meant \nthat the arbocks didn't want Wood as head of the F.C.C., because he \nmight be too pro-see-leck. (Wood is now the head of the Federal Energy \nRegulatory Commission.) Michael Powell had to signal the arbocks that he \nwasn't as threatening as Wood, while also signalling the conservative \nmovement that he was only negligibly farther to the left than \nFurchtgott-Roth.\n\nPowell did this deftly. For example, in December of 2000 he appeared \nbefore a conservative group called the Progress & Freedom Foundation and \ngave a very Michael Powell speech—whimsical, intellectual, and \nfree-associative (Biblical history, Joseph Schumpeter, Moore's Law)—that \nbegan by making fun of the idea that the F.C.C. should try to keep new \ntelecom companies alive. \"In the wake of the 1996 Act, the F.C.C. is \noften cast as the Grinch who stole Christmas,\" Powell said. \"Like the \nWhos, down in Who-ville, who feast on Who-pudding and rare Who-roast \nbeast, the communications industry was preparing to feast on the \nderegulatory fruits it believed would inevitably sprout from the Act's \nfertile soil. But this feast the F.C.C. Grinch did not like in the \nleast, so it is thought.\" Thus Powell was indicating that if he became \nchairman he didn't expect to administer first aid to the see-lecks as \npart of the job. He was appointed to the chairmanship on the first day \nof the Bush Administration.\n\nTwenty months into the Administration, nearly all the see-lecks are dead \nor dying; nearly all long-distance companies, not just WorldCom, are in \nserious trouble; cable companies have lost half their value; satellite \ncompanies are staggering. The crash has had an automatically \nconcentrating effect, because as new companies die the existing \ncompanies' market share increases, and, if the existing companies are in \ngood shape financially, they have the opportunity to pick up damaged \ncompanies at bargain prices. During the Bush Administration, as the \nfinancial carnage in communications has worsened, the communications \nindustry has moved in the direction of more concentration. If the Bells \nwind up protecting their regional monopolies in local phone service, and \nif they also merge, the country will be on its way to having a national \nduopoly in local service: Verizon, in the East, and S.B.C., in the West. \nAnd these companies could dominate long distance as well, because of the \npoor health of the long-distance companies.\n\nThe cable business also seems close to having two dominant national \ncompanies, AOL Time Warner and Comcast. Unlike the phone companies, they \ndon't have to share their wiring with other companies and so can more \nfully control what material they allow to enter people's homes. As part \nof the complicated bargaining with interest groups that led to the 1996 \nTelecom Act, the limits on concentration in the radio industry were \nsignificantly loosened, and in the past six years the number of \nradio-station owners in the United States has been cut by twenty-five \nper cent; today, a large portion of local and national radio news \nprogramming is supplied by a single company, Westwood One, a subsidiary \nof Viacom.\n\nIn this situation, many Democrats and liberals think, the F.C.C. should \nbe hyperactive—the superhero of government regulation, springing to the \nrescue of both consumers and the communications industry. It should try \nto breathe life into the see-lecks and other new companies. It should \ndisallow mergers, maintain ownership limits, and otherwise restrain the \nforces of concentration. It should use the government's money and muscle \nto get new technology—especially fast Internet connections—into the \nhomes of people who can't afford it at current market prices. (An \nanalogy that a lot of people in F.C.C. World make is between telecom and \nthe Middle East: the Clinton people blame the bloodshed on the Bush \npeople, because they disengaged when they came into office, and the Bush \npeople blame it on the Clinton people, because they raised too many \nexpectations and stirred too many passions.)\n\nBut Michael Powell's F.C.C. has not been hyperactive. Powell has been \nconducting internal policy reviews and reforming the management of the \nF.C.C. and waiting for the federal courts and the Congress to send him \nsignals. (In mid-September, Powell finally initiated a formal review of \nthe F.C.C.'s limits on media concentration.) This doesn't mean he has \nbeen inactive; rather, he has been active in a way that further \ninfuriates his critics—in a manner that smoothly blends the genial and \nthe provocative, he muses about whether the fundamental premises of \nF.C.C. World really make sense, while giving the impression that he's \nhaving the time of his life as chairman. At his first press conference, \nwhen he was asked what he was going to do about the \"digital \ndivide\"—that is, economic inequality in access to the Internet—he said, \n\"You know, I think there is a Mercedes divide. I'd like to have one and \nI can't afford one.\" At the National Cable & Telecommunications \nAssociation convention, in Chicago, Powell, following a troupe of \ntumblers to the stage, interrupted his walk to the podium to perform a \nsomersault.\n\n\nNot long ago, I went to see Powell in his office at the F.C.C. Until \n1998, when the commission moved to a new building in Southwest \nWashington, near the city's open-air fish market, F.C.C. World was at \nthe western edge of downtown, where everybody would encounter everybody \nelse at a few familiar restaurants and bars. Today, the F.C.C. building \nlooks like the office of a mortgage company in a suburban office park. \nEven the chairman's suite, though large, is beige, carpeted, and \nfluorescent. Powell is a bulky man who wears gold-rimmed glasses and \nwalks with a pronounced limp, the result of injuries he suffered in a \njeep accident in Germany, in 1987, when he was an Army officer. Because \nof the accident, he left the Army and went to law school, where he \nbecame entranced with conservative ideas about regulation, particularly \nthe idea that the government, rather than trying to correct the flaws of \nthe market before the fact—\"prophylactically,\" as he likes to say—should \nwait till the flaws manifest themselves and then use antitrust \nlitigation to fix them. He worked briefly at a corporate law firm, and \nthen became a protégé of Joel Klein, the head of the antitrust division \nof the Clinton Justice Department and the man who led the government's \nlegal case against Microsoft. (He was recently appointed chancellor of \nthe New York public-school system.) It testifies to Powell's political \nskill that he is probably the only high official in the Bush \nAdministration who not only served in the Clinton Administration but \nalso maintains close ties to Bush's nemesis Senator John McCain, of \nArizona. One of the things about Powell that annoy people is his \nenduring love of law school—\"It's sort of like a law-school study \nsession over there,\" one Democratic former commissioner said. As if to \nconfirm the charge, Powell, when I arrived, introduced me to four law \nstudents, summer interns at the commission, whom he'd invited to sit in.\n\nI began by asking Powell whether he agreed with the founding assumptions \nof the F.C.C. For example, could private companies have apportioned the \nairwaves among themselves without the government being involved?\n\n\"I think we'll never know,\" Powell said. \"I don't think it's an \nautomatically bad idea, the way some people will argue. Land is probably \nthe best analogue. We don't seize all the land in the United States and \nsay, 'The government will issue licenses to use land.' If my neighbor \nputs a fence one foot onto my property line, there's a whole body of law \nabout what I can do about that, including whether I can tear it down. If \na wireless company was interfering with another wireless company, it's a \nsimilar proposition. There are scholars who argue—indeed, the famous \nRonald Coase treatise that won the Nobel Prize was about this—that \nspectrum policy is lunacy. The market could work this out, in the kinds \nof ways that we're accustomed to.\"\n\nTalking to Powell was fun. Unlike most high government officials, he \ndoesn't seem to be invested in appearing dignified or commanding. He \nslumps in his chair and fiddles with his tie and riffs. He speaks in \nironic air quotes. He's like your libertarian friend in college who \nenjoyed staying up all night asking impertinent rhetorical questions \nabout aspects of life that everybody else takes for granted but that he \nsees as sentimental or illogical. After a while, I asked him whether he \nthought his predecessors' excitement about the 1996 Telecommunications \nAct had been excessive.\n\n\"I would start with a caveat,\" Powell said. \"Look, I can't fault those \njudgments in and of themselves, given the time and what people thought. \nThey were not the only ones who were hysterical about the opportunities. \nBut, frankly, I've always been a little bit critical. First of all, \nanybody who works with the act knows that it doesn't come anywhere close \nto matching the hyperbole that was associated with it, by the President \non down, about the kinds of things it's going to open up. I mean, I \ndon't know what provisions are the information-superhighway provisions, \nor what provisions are so digitally oriented, or some of the things that \nwere a big part of the theatre of its introduction. When one starts \nreading the details, one searches, often in vain, for these provisions. \nBut, nonetheless, there was a rising dot-com excitement, and an Internet \nexcitement, and people thought this was historic legislation, and it \ncertainly was.\n\n\"But. We were sucking helium out of balloons, with the kinds of \nexpectations that were being bandied around, and this is before the \neconomy or the market even gets in trouble. It was a dramatically \nexaggerated expectation—by the leadership of the commission, by \npoliticians, by the market itself, by companies themselves. It was a \ngold rush, and led to some very detrimental business decisions, ones \nthat government encouraged by its policies, frankly. Everybody wanted to \nsee numbers go up on the board.\"\n\nPowell began imitating an imagined true believer in the Telecom Act. \" \n'I want to see ten competitors. Twenty competitors! I want to see \nthirty-per-cent market share. Fifty-per-cent market share! I want the \nBells to bleed! Then we'll know we've succeeded.' \" Now Powell returned \nto being Powell. \"I think that expectation was astonishingly \nunrealistic, in the short term. They wanted to see it while they're \nthere. We were starting to get drunk on the juice we were drinking. And \nthe market was getting drunk on the juice we were drinking. There's no \nquestion, we went too soon too fast. Too many companies took on too much \ndebt too fast before the market really had a product, or a business \nmodel.\"\n\nHow could the Telecom Act have been handled better? \"We could have \nchosen policies that were less hellbent on a single objective, and were \nslightly more balanced and put more economic discipline in the system,\" \nPowell said. \"Money chased what seemed like government-promised \nopportunity. The problem with that is there's a morning after, and we're \nin it. And the problem is there is no short fix for this problem. This \ndebt is going to take years to bring down to a realistic level. In some \nways, for short-term gain, we paid a price in long-term stability.\"\n\nPowell went on to say that it might have turned out differently if there \nhad been a more \"reasonable\" level of investment. \"No, we wouldn't have \nevery home in America with competitive choice yet—but we don't anyway. I \ndon't think it's the remonopolization of telephone service. I don't buy \nthat. The Bells will prosper, but did anybody believe they wouldn't? The \npart of the story that didn't materialize was that people thought so \nwould MCI WorldCom and Sprint.\"\n\nOther local phone companies, he added, hadn't materialized as viable \nbusinesses, either, and they never might. \"Everybody's always saying, \n'The regulators did this and this and this.' But, candidly, the story's \nquite the opposite. I think the regulators bent over backward for six \nyears to give them a chance. Conditions don't get that good except once \nevery thirty years, and it didn't happen. So, whatever the reason, we're \nlooking at a WorldCom that's teetering. We're looking at a long-distance \nbusiness that has had a rapid decline in its revenue base. A.T. & T. is \nbreaking itself up. Sprint has struggled.\"\n\nCould the F.C.C. have done anything to make the long-distance companies \nstronger? \"At the F.C.C.? I think I'll just be blunt. My political \nanswer? Yes, there's all kinds of things we can do at the margin to try \nto help. But I can't find thirty billion dollars for WorldCom somewhere. \nI can't mitigate the impacts of an accounting scandal and an S.E.C. \ninvestigation. Were I king, it would be wonderful, but I don't have \nthose kinds of levers. I don't know whether anybody does. At some point, \ncompanies are expected to run themselves in a way that keeps them from \ndying.\" Powell couldn't have made it much clearer that he doesn't think \nit's his responsibility to do anything about the telecom crash. He has \ndemonstrated his sure political touch by making accommodationist \ngestures—in August, for example, five months after disbanding the \nF.C.C.'s Accounting Safeguards Division, Powell announced that he was \nappointing a committee to study accounting standards in the \ncommunications industry. But that shows that Powell is better at riding \nout the storm than, say, Harvey Pitt, his counterpart at the Securities \nand Exchange Commission, and does not mean that he plans to try to shore \nup the telecom industry.\n\nI asked Powell if it would bother him if, for most people, only one \ncompany provided cable television and only one provided local phone \nservice. \"Yes,\" he said. \"It concerns us that there's one of each of \nthose things, but let's not diminish the importance of there being one \nof each of those things. That still is a nice suite of communications \ncapabilities, even if they aren't direct analogues of each other.\" \nAnyway, Powell said, before long the phone companies will be able to \nprovide video service over their lines, and the cable companies will \nprovide data service over their lines, so there will be more choice. \n\"So, yeah, we have this anxiety: we have one of everything. The question \nis, Does it stay that way?\"\n\nThe concentration of ownership and the concentrated control of \ninformation did not appear to trouble Powell, either. He said that \npeople confuse bigness, which brings many benefits, with concentration, \nwhich distorts markets. \"If this were just economics, it's easy. If you \nwere to say to me, 'Mike, just worry about economic concentration,' we \nknow how to do that—the econometrics of antitrust. I can tell you when a \nmarket's too concentrated and prices are going to rise. The problem is \nother dimensions, like political, ideological, sometimes emotional. Take \nthe question of, if everybody's controlling what you see, the assumption \nthere is that somehow there'll be this viewpoint, a monolithic \nviewpoint, pushed on you by your media and you won't get diversity. I \nthink that's a possibility. I don't think it's nearly the possibility \nthat's ascribed to it sometimes.\"\n\nPowell explained, \"Sometimes when we see very pointed political or \nparochial programming, it gets attacked as unfair. I see some of the \nsame people who claim they want diversity go crazy when Rush Limbaugh \nexists. They love diversity, but somehow we should run Howard Stern off \nthe planet. If it has a point of view, then it becomes accused of bias, \nand then we have policies like\"—here his tone went from ironic to \nsarcastic—\"the fairness doctrine, which seems to me like the antithesis \nof what I thought those people cared about. So when somebody is pointed \nand opinionated, we do all this stuff in the name of journalistic \nfairness and integrity or whatever, to make them balance it out.\"\n\n\nF.C.C. World abounds in theories about Michael Powell. One is that he \ncan't make up his mind about how to address the crisis in the industries \nhe regulates—so he talks (and talks and talks) flamboyantly about the \nmarket, in order to buy himself time. Another is that he's carrying \nwater for the arbocks and the big cable companies. Another is that he is \nplanning to run for the Senate from Virginia (or to be appointed \nAttorney General in a second Bush term), and doesn't want to do anything \nat the F.C.C. that would diminish his chances. Another is that he's \nwaiting to move until there is more consensus on some course of action, \nso that he doesn't wind up going first and getting caught in the \ncrossfire between the arbocks and the cable companies and the television \nnetworks. (In F.C.C. World, this is known as the Powell Doctrine of \nTelecom, after Colin Powell's idea that the United States should never \ncommit itself militarily without a clear objective, overwhelming force, \nand an exit strategy.) And another is that he actually believes what he \nsays, and thinks the telecommunications crash is natural, healthy, and \nirreversible, and more concentration would be just fine.\n\n\"This is why elections matter,\" Reed Hundt, who isn't happy about what \nhas become of his Telecom Act, told me. It's true that the F.C.C.—much \nmore than, say, the war in Afghanistan—is a case in which a Gore \nAdministration would be acting quite differently from the Bush \nAdministration. Consumers might have noticed the difference by now, but \nthere's no question whether communications companies have noticed. The \narbocks are doing better against their internal rivals than they would \nhave done if Gore had won. Next election, they'll help the party that \nhelped them. If the Republicans win, policy will tilt further in the \narbocks' favor. If they lose, perhaps the arbocks' rivals—the \nlong-distance companies and the telecommunications upstarts—with their \nfriends now in power, will stage a comeback. America's present is not \nunrecognizably different from America's past.\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Colin Nevin wrote:\n> \n> Hi All,\n> The modem handshake works at slightly higher speeds (4800bps to\n> ~57600bps) but that is no good for tx/rx'ing data to the remote server\n> as it insists at talking at the speed of treacle/1200bps.\n\nIt sounds like the flow control is set to Xon/Xoff rather than hardware.\n\n> Baud 1200 7 data bits Even Parity\n\nUnusual - 8 n 1 is more common.\n\n> \n> I am doing a ATZ3 to reset the modem then I send this init string:\n> \n> AT&F1E1V1Q0X4Y0S32=232&A1&B0&C1&D2&H0&I0&K1&M4&N0&P0&R1&S0&U0&Y1\n\nI think that the AT command for hardware flow control is &E4 though this\nmay vary from modem to modem.\n\nRegards...zzzzcc\n-- \n********************************************\nJohn McCormac * Hack Watch News\nzzzzcc@hackwatch.com * 22 Viewmount, \nVoice: +353-51-873640 * Waterford,\nBBS&Fax: +353-51-850143 * Ireland\nhttp://www.hackwatch.com/~kooltek\n********************************************\n\n-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\nVersion: 2.6\n\nmQCNAzAYPNsAAAEEAPGTHaNyitUTNAwF8BU6mF5PcbLQXdeuHf3xT6UOL+/Od+z+\nZOCAx8Ka9LJBjuQYw8hlqvTV5kceLlrP2HPqmk7YPOw1fQWlpTJof+ZMCxEVd1Qz\nTRet2vS/kiRQRYvKOaxoJhqIzUr1g3ovBnIdpKeo4KKULz9XKuxCgZsuLKkVAAUX\ntCJKb2huIE1jQ29ybWFjIDxqbWNjQGhhY2t3YXRjaC5jb20+tBJqbWNjQGhhY2t3\nYXRjaC5jb20=\n=sTfy\n-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, John Moylan wrote:\n> Hmm, speaking of cheap machines etc, has anyone tried this sort of\n> thing: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/humidor64/ ? or more importantly\n> has anyone had any positive/negative experiences with the Via mini-itx\n> boards/via c3 processors.\n\nMy laptop has a Via C3 processor. I use Debian with a self-compiled\n2.4.19 kernel, and have had absolutely no problems with the chip at all\n(quite the opposite, in fact).\n\nI had to compile for \"686\" in order for 3D acceleration to work (the\nkernel has an option specifically for the Via C3), but I assume that was\na kernel problem rather than a hardware problem.\n\nTrevor Johnston\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Laurent Papier wrote:\n\n>On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:24:06 +0200\n>Matthias Saou <matthias@rpmforge.net> wrote:\n>\n> \n>\n>>Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n>>\n>> \n>>\n>>>mplayer works with dga (if i am root) and works with x11\n>>>and always worked with sdl (but not now with redhat 8)\n>>>now it gives black screen window and play the music of the movie.\n>>> \n>>>\n>>Strange, because as I said in an earlier post, it works for me. Maybe\n>>you're missing the SDL_image or something? :-/\n>> \n>>\n>\n>It also works nicely for me.\n>\n>Laurent\n> \n>\n\n[roi@roi roi]$ rpm -qa | grep -i sdl\nSDL_image-devel-1.2.2-3\nxmame-SDL-0.60.1-fr2\nSDL_mixer-1.2.4-5\nSDL-1.2.4-5\nSDL-devel-1.2.4-5\nSDL_mixer-devel-1.2.4-5\nSDL_net-1.2.4-3\nSDL_net-devel-1.2.4-3\nSDL_image-1.2.2-3\n\nSeems I got all packages I need.\nIt worked on redhat 7.3 I did upgrade not reinstall so packages\nshouldn't make a problem.\n\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Since libdvdcss-1.2.0, I have been unable to play DVDs using ogle, xine,\nvlc, or mplayer. They all show a scrambled picture with (VERY) choppy\naudio. When I run xine I see tons of these in the console: \n\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\naudio_out: inserting 5859 0-frames to fill a gap of 10989 pts\nmetronom: audio jump\nliba52: a52_block error\n\nHas anyone seen this before and know how to fix it? Or should I file a\nbug report? \n\nThanks for your help. \n\n- Jon\n\n-- \njon@tgpsolutions.com\n\nAdministrator, tgpsolutions\nhttp://www.tgpsolutions.com\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:36, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Hi there,\n> \n> Two new things today :\n> \n> 1) I've had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old\n> proprietary IVR software that doesn't work on newer releases :-( So I've\n> recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and they are\n> now available with a complete \"os, updates & freshrpms\" apt repository at\n> apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested.\n\nGack. Did you try 7.3 with the compat-glibc first? Or does it require an\nantique kernel?\n\n-- \nChris Kloiber\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hi.\n\nBrian Fahrlander <kilroy@kamakiriad.com> wrote:\n\n> What's it take to ensure we're covered against this kind of\n> childish/moronic/Microsoft-era problems?\n\nWell, I am checking the packet signatures while building the apt-tree.\nNot very pretty, not very fast, but it works.\n\nNonetheless:\ndid anyone ever play with this:\nhttp://distro.conectiva.com.br/pipermail/apt-rpm/2002-August/000653.html\n\n-- \nR!\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2310209.stm\n\nTuesday, 8 October, 2002, 13:53 GMT 14:53 UK\nQuiz: Know your Cockney Rhyming Slang?\n\nCockney Rhyming Slang is alive and well with new terms being invented all\nthe time, according to the new Oxford Dictionary of Rhyming Slang being\npublished this week.\nBut do you know a Raquel Welch (belch) from a Billie Piper (windscreen\nwiper)?\n...\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\nforteana-unsubscribe@egroups.com\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Lucas Gonze:\n>Senders should vary the recipient list to include non-targets, like party \n>officials, and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible \n>deniability.\n\nWhich means the sender has a list of who the true\ntargets are, and who the fake targets are, and\nscripts for mixing these. On the receiving side,\nmy email client distinguishes between messages\nthat are read, and messages that are not. I like\nto mark or save messages that are particularly\ninterresting or important to me. And even if I\nmake a point to delete \"suspicious material\"\nimmediately upon reading it, even THAT might\nleave an interesting kind of trace on my machine.\n\nSorry, but I don't buy the argument that spam\nprotects people who want to distribute or see\nmaterial the government disapproves.\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nMSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: \nhttp://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On 2 Sep 2002, RossO wrote:\n\n> John Waylan (who was interviewed in Wired a few years back) pulled out a\n> 14.4 second run in the quarter mile (91mph), on a battery pack that\n> hasn't been broken in yet. He expects to break his record next year\n> topping his 13.1sec/99mph run a couple of years ago. He's shooting for a\n> 12 second run.\n\nBattery pack, huh what???\n\nYou dont use batteries for a 1/4 mile run, you use capacitors. MANY times\nthe energy density, and you can get the energy out fast enough. Note that\nthe battery packs are fully swapped out for recharging after each run\nanyway, just like a gas dragster is refueled, so this wouldnt be cheating.\n200 MPH should be no problem.\n\n- Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n beberg@mithral.com\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:\n\n> For the most part, these were angry, middle-aged men. A column in this\n> table shows their age at the time:\n\nMainly they were a bunch of rich people (the white/old/male is irrelivant\nbut how it happened to be at the time) that didnt want to pay their taxes to\nda man er... king. So they had a revolution and formed a no-tax zone,\nleading to a very fast growing economy and dreams for all - amazing what\nan economy without 40% of everything disappearing to taxes. It was a great\nmany years before their were federal taxes in the US.\n\nNow we give rich men who dont want to pay any taxes corporations to run,\nwith enough writeoffs and loopholes that they dont have to pay any :)\n\n- Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n beberg@mithral.com\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Of course we've had select() since BSD 4.2 and poll() since System V\nor so, and they work reasonably well for asynchronous I/O up to a\nhundred or so channels, but suck after that; /dev/poll (available in\nSolaris and Linux) is one approach to solving this; Linux has a way to\ndo essentially the same thing with real-time signals, and has for\nyears; and FreeBSD has kqueue.\n\nMore details about these are at\nhttp://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/linux-scalability/\n\nNone of this helps with disk I/O; most programs that need to overlap\ndisk I/O with computation, on either proprietary Unixes or Linux, just\nuse multiple threads or processes to handle the disk I/O.\n\nPOSIX specifies a mechanism for nonblocking disk I/O that most\nproprietary Unixes implement. The Linux kernel hackers are currently\nrewriting Linux's entire I/O subsystem essentially from scratch to\nwork asynchronously, because they can easily build efficient\nsynchronous I/O primitives from asynchronous ones, but not the other\nway around. So now Linux will support this mechanism too.\n\nIt probably doesn't need saying for anyone who's read Beberg saying\nthings like \"Memory management is a non-issue for anyone that has any\nidea at all how the hardware functions,\" but he's totally off-base.\nPeople should know by now not to take anything he says seriously, but\napparently some don't, so I'll rebut.\n\nNot surprisingly, the rebuttal requires many more words than the\noriginal stupid errors.\n\nIn detail, he wrote:\n> Could it be? After 20 years without this feature UNIX finally\n> catches up to Windows and has I/O that doesnt [sic] totally suck for\n> nontrivial apps? No way!\n\nUnix acquired nonblocking I/O in the form of select() about 23 years\nago, and Solaris has had the particular aio_* calls we are discussing\nfor many years. Very few applications need the aio_* calls ---\nessentially only high-performance RDBMS servers even benefit from them\nat all, and most of those have been faking it fine for a while with\nmultiple threads or processes. This just provides a modicum of extra\nperformance.\n\n> OK, so they do it with signals or a flag, which is completely\n> ghetto, but at least they are trying. Keep trying guys, you got the\n> idea, but not the clue.\n\nReaders can judge who lacks the clue here.\n\n> The Windows I/O model does definately [sic] blow the doors off the\n> UNIX one, but then they had select to point at in it's [sic]\n> suckiness and anything would have been an improvement. UNIX is just\n> now looking at it's [sic] I/O model and adapting to a multiprocess\n> multithreaded world so it's gonna be years yet before a posix API\n> comes out of it.\n\nAlthough I don't have a copy of the spec handy, I think the aio_* APIs\ncome from the POSIX spec IEEE Std 1003.1-1990, section 6.7.9, which is\n13 years old, and which I think documented then-current practice.\nThey might be even older than that.\n\nUnix has been multiprocess since 1969, and most Unix implementations\nhave supported multithreading for a decade or more.\n\n> Bottom line is the \"do stuff when something happens\" model turned\n> out to be right, and the UNIX \"look for something to do and keep\n> looking till you find it no matter how many times you have to look\"\n> is not really working so great anymore.\n\nLinux's aio_* routines can notify the process of their completion with\na \"signal\", a feature missing in Microsoft Windows; a \"signal\" causes\nthe immediate execution of a \"signal handler\" in a process. By\ncontrast, the Microsoft Windows mechanisms to do similar things (such\nas completion ports) do not deliver a notification until the process\npolls them.\n\nI don't think signals are a better way to do things in this case\n(although I haven't written any RDBMSes myself), but you got the\ntechnical descriptions of the two operating systems exactly backwards.\nMost programs that use Linux real-time signals for asynchronous\nnetwork I/O, in fact, block the signal in question and poll the signal\nqueue in a very Windowsish way, using sigtimedwait() or sigwaitinfo().\n\n-- \n<kragen@pobox.com> Kragen Sitaker <http://www.pobox.com/~kragen/>\nEdsger Wybe Dijkstra died in August of 2002. This is a terrible loss after \nwhich the world will never be the same.\nhttp://www.xent.com/pipermail/fork/2002-August/013974.html\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n--- begin forwarded text\n\n\nStatus: RO\nFrom: A guy who models plasma all day...\nTo: \"R. A. Hettinga\" <rah@shipwright.com>\nSubject: Re: Electric car an Edsel...\nDate: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:49:20 -0600\n\nBob,\n\nThis capacitor drive idea isn't completely stupid, but neither is it well\nthought out.\n\nMaxwell (www.maxwell.com) makes and sells high energy density capacitors,\ncalled ultracapacitors. They deliver them in an air-cooled, voltage\nregulated module that will charge to 42 V and hold 128 kilojoules -- roughly\nthe energy in 2 teaspoons of sugar or a bite of a donut -- and weighs 16\nkilograms. If that electrical energy could all be converted to kinetic\nenergy, there's enough to get the capacitor module up to about 200 mph -- in\na vacuum.\n\nSuppose you take the entire power density of the capacitor module -- 2.8\nkw/kg (~4 hp/kg!) -- and punch it through an electric motor. How much does\nthe 64 hp electric motor weigh? If it were as little as 50 kg -- and I bet\nit isn't -- that capacitor and motor would have a top speed of 100 mph --\nthe speed at which their energy is the 128 kJ that was initially stored\nelectrically in the capacitor. And it's not at all obvious that the torque\nvs. speed characteristic of 42 V DC motors will support this, or how they do\nit without wheels, drive train, etc.\n\nBut if they can, they can only do it in a vacuum where there is no drag!\n\nOn to the Lunarnationals? Or would you prefer the bite of donut?\n\n\n<Somebody's .sig>\n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"R. A. Hettinga\" <rah@shipwright.com>\nTo: \"Vinnie Moscaritolo\" <vinnie@vmeng.com>; \"Randolph Elliott\"\n<elliott@engineous.com>; <NicholasFC@aol.com>; \"Duncan Goldie-Scot\"\n<dgs@btinternet.com>; \"G. Gruff\" <g_gruff@yahoo.com>;\n<michael.frese@numerex.com>\nSent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:15 PM\nSubject: Re: Electric car an Edsel...\n\n\n>\n> --- begin forwarded text\n>\n>\n> Status: RO\n> Delivered-To: fork@example.com\n> From: \"Adam L. Beberg\" <beberg@mithral.com>\n> To: RossO <fork@ordersomewherechaos.com>\n> Cc: <fork@example.com>\n> Subject: Re: Electric car an Edsel...\n> Sender: fork-admin@xent.com\n> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:24:47 -0700 (PDT)\n>\n> On 2 Sep 2002, RossO wrote:\n>\n> > John Waylan (who was interviewed in Wired a few years back) pulled out a\n> > 14.4 second run in the quarter mile (91mph), on a battery pack that\n> > hasn't been broken in yet. He expects to break his record next year\n> > topping his 13.1sec/99mph run a couple of years ago. He's shooting for a\n> > 12 second run.\n>\n> Battery pack, huh what???\n>\n> You dont use batteries for a 1/4 mile run, you use capacitors. MANY times\n> the energy density, and you can get the energy out fast enough. Note that\n> the battery packs are fully swapped out for recharging after each run\n> anyway, just like a gas dragster is refueled, so this wouldnt be cheating.\n> 200 MPH should be no problem.\n>\n> - Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n> http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n> beberg@mithral.com\n>\n> --- end forwarded text\n>\n>\n> --\n> -----------------\n> R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com>\n> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n> \"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n> [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\n> experience.\" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'\n>\n\n--- end forwarded text\n\n\n-- \n-----------------\nR. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com>\nThe Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n\"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\nexperience.\" -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Hindus mourn 'monkey god'\n\n\nBy Omer Farooq\nBBC reporter in Hyderabad\n\nHundreds of people have attended the funeral of a monkey which became\nrevered as a divine incarnation of a Hindu god in the southern Indian\nstate of Andhra Pradesh.\n\n\nThe monkey was quite old and both its hind legs were paralysed\n\nAnimal rights campaigners say the monkey died of starvation and exhaustion\nafter being trapped in a temple for a month by over-zealous worshippers.\n\nThe animal was cremated in Anantapur district, 400 kilometres (250 miles)\nsouth of the state capital, Hyderabad, on Sunday.\n\nIt had not eaten for three weeks.\n\nLast rites were performed by priests in the village of Timmiganipally in\nthe presence of hundreds of devotees who had come to believe that the\nmonkey was a reincarnation of the Hindu monkey god, Hanuman.\n\nGarlanded\n\nOne animal rights activist said his group's efforts to save the monkey had\nfailed because of the blind faith of the people.\n\n\nThe monkey's death came a day after he and others tried to move the animal\nout of the temple, but were prevented by villagers.\n\nThe monkey, which was found perched on top of an idol of Hanuman a month\nago, attracted hundreds of devotees every day from surrounding villages,\nas well as from the neighbouring state of Karnataka.\n\nDevotees showered the monkey with fruit and flowers and worshipped it\naround the clock.\n\n'Exploited'\n\nLocals said they believed that Lord Hanuman was visiting the village, as\nthe temple had stopped daily rituals after a dispute between two groups of\nresidents.\n\nBut animal rights campaigners complained that the animal was being\nmistreated.\n\nThey filed a petition in the state's High Court saying the monkey had been\nforcibly confined in the temple.\n\nThe group also alleged that people's religious feelings were being\nexploited to make money.\n\nThe court then ordered the local administration to rescue the monkey - but\nvillagers prevented officials from taking him for treatment in time.\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Someone needs to tell the mayor about this:\nhttp://www.cb-2000.com/\nkinkily yours,\nCindy\n\nOn Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote:\n\n> Shouldn't a politician know not to tell the truth? Odds he's impeached by\n> next Monday? [ob: no-clue-how-they-remove-mayors-in-italy]\n> \n> Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.\n> \n> ------------\n> \n> Get Sexier, Keep Husbands, Mayor Tells Wives\n> Wed Sep 4, 9:14 AM ET\n> \n> MISSAGLIA, Italy (Reuters) - Husband's eyes wandering? Make yourself sexier.\n> At least that's the solution proposed by an Italian mayor -- and a woman\n> mayor at that.\n> \n> Wives in the northern town of Missaglia had complained to mayor Marta\n> Casiraghi about a young woman who sunbathed topless on her terrace.\n> \n> They complained that the men in the town of some 7,000 people were spending\n> too much time ogling, so they asked Casiraghi to order the woman to put her\n> clothes back on.\n> \n> But the mayor, far from sympathizing, told the wives to get sexy if they\n> wanted to keep their men. \"The girl was very pretty and was soaking up some\n> sun. Topless sunbathing is largely tolerated and widespread nowadays.\n> There's nothing we can do,\" Casiraghi told Il Nuovo, a web-based newspaper.\n> \n> \"Instead, I'd advise the wives to play their rival at her own game -- make\n> themselves more beautiful.\"\n> \n\n-- \n\"I don't take no stocks in mathematics, anyway\" --Huckleberry Finn\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Jim Whitehead\" <ejw@cse.ucsc.edu>\n\n>\n> For toddlers, pressing play must cause the music to start immediately,\n> within half a second, for the toddler to get the causality and not press\nthe\n> button multiple times.\nOr some sound indicating that the music will start real soon now.\n\n> As well, pressing the button multiple times shouldn't\n> change the semantics, like an elevator button. No matter how many times\nyou\n> press, the elevator still comes to that floor. The play button needs to be\n> the same.\nIdempotency everywhere you look...\n\n\n> What would the ideal toddler CD player be like? It would immediately start\n> playing a CD after it was loaded.\nIt'd be an MP3 player with solid state storage... instant on.\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Mr. FoRK wrote:\n--]It'd be an MP3 player with solid state storage... instant on.\n\n\nGetting new media on is a bit out of the reach of the kindala. With a CD\nsolution you hand em a disc and in it goes.\n\nTradeoffs abound.\n\nHeather got a CD player when she was 5. Even though it was a crappy\nhandmedown it worked great other than the batterys poping out..bad bad ui\nthere. Her next one was a store bought. Its an all Audio player, no mp3\ndecoders for her yet. I wanted to do the bottom line Volt but momala put\nthe kabash on anything costing over 30 bucks. heck I had to scrounge ebay\nto get her a palm m100 for about 25 bucks.\n\nThe only hitch is new music. Upshot is we spend time going over usenet\nlisting togther:)-\n\nIts a happy family.\n\nNow for Benjamin, yea id love to have something like the amazingly cool\nFisher Price My First (cd, casset, vasectomy, dirtybomb) products. Perhaps\nthe My First Cd might work...time to let ebay do the walking.\n\n\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "> Now for Benjamin, yea id love to have something like the amazingly cool\n> Fisher Price My First (cd, casset, vasectomy, dirtybomb) products. Perhaps\n> the My First Cd might work...time to let ebay do the walking.\n\nSony makes such a line of products.\n\nMy father was legendary for his abilty to break things. His 'thumbs of death'\nwould rival anything a toddler could do to devices. After countless numbers of\nWalkman devices having their lids broken or buttons pressed into oblivion I\nfound the Sony devices. I got him a \"My First Sony\" (be afraid of the\nmarketing) CD player. It was /fire engine red/ but was completely\nindestructible. I hacked a headphone jack into it and gave it to him. He\ncomplained of it's looks but used it nonetheless. I also gave him a pack of\nheadphones as there's no such things indestuctible headphones that aren't\nobscenely bulky.\n\nNow that we're riding up the curve of an ever increasing geezer population, how\nsoon before device makers get wise? Not to be morbid, but would the marketing\nbe \"My Last Sony\"? <ducks and runs>\n\n-Bill Kearney\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "It's a fair trade, IMO. Same for some mid-east bloke who's dying to marry \nAmerican so he can start his own business. But BB is right. When the \nthrill is gone, she should take his shit. LOL\nCindyDrinking\n\nOn Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote:\n\n> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 bitbitch@magnesium.net wrote:\n> \n> > Again, these situations are great, provided everyone is aware that the\n> > relationship is a contractual one -- he wants a maid, a dog and a\n> > prostitute he doesn't have to pay, and she wants a country that isn't\n> > impoverished and teeming with AIDS.\n> \n> You assume that they just match people up and marry them off, and neither is\n> attracted to the other, which is not the case. Even this has arranged\n> marrage beat by a long way.\n> \n> Males gets: A wife for a while, and if they actually like each other, for a\n> long time.\n> Female gets: Into Britan, out of a country with no real rights for women, no\n> opportunities for her or her children, out of the polution, AIDS, and an\n> uncountable number of scary tropical diseases. Not to mention in most cases\n> living conditions that us spoiled Americans cannot even comprehend.\n> \n> Yea, the women is definately getting tha bad end of the deal here.\n> \n> You're so easy to taunt :)\n> \n> - Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n> http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n> beberg@mithral.com\n> \n\n-- \n\"I don't take no stocks in mathematics, anyway\" --Huckleberry Finn\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 bitbitch@magnesium.net wrote:\n\n> Again, these situations are great, provided everyone is aware that the\n> relationship is a contractual one -- he wants a maid, a dog and a\n> prostitute he doesn't have to pay, and she wants a country that isn't\n> impoverished and teeming with AIDS.\n\nYou assume that they just match people up and marry them off, and neither is\nattracted to the other, which is not the case. Even this has arranged\nmarrage beat by a long way.\n\nMales gets: A wife for a while, and if they actually like each other, for a\nlong time.\nFemale gets: Into Britan, out of a country with no real rights for women, no\nopportunities for her or her children, out of the polution, AIDS, and an\nuncountable number of scary tropical diseases. Not to mention in most cases\nliving conditions that us spoiled Americans cannot even comprehend.\n\nYea, the women is definately getting tha bad end of the deal here.\n\nYou're so easy to taunt :)\n\n- Adam L. \"Duncan\" Beberg\n http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/\n beberg@mithral.com\n\n\n" |
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| easy_ham | "Ah yes..\n\nYet another case where 'marriage' is actually an inappropriate word\nfor these guys. What they want is 'housekeeper' 'dog' and\n'prostitute'.\n\nAll I can say, is I hope these girls come out, take the men for what\nthey have, be glorified housekeepers for as short a term as possible,\nand enjoy the free travel.\n\nLove my arse.\n\n-BB\nALB> ...an alternative to the \"kind of de-feminized, over-sized, self-centered,\nALB> mercenary-minded lady available on the British singles scene,\"\n\nALB> Glad to see American culture is making it's way into the British bars too :)\nALB> God bless us uncivilized bastards, every one.\n\nALB> Still, definately something not right about the below. People are now\nALB> cheaper then a decent laptop? (ok, so we knew that already)\n\nALB> -------------\n\nALB> Selling Wedded Bliss Big Business in Thailand\nALB> Thu Aug 29,10:19 AM ET\nALB> By Andrew Marshall\n\nALB> BANGKOK, Thailand (Reuters) - English dentist Ken Moylan came to Thailand\nALB> looking for a wife. It took two hours to find her.\n\nALB> \"The first day I went out with Wan, she came back to my hotel and hung all\nALB> my clothes up and tidied the room. I thought it was marvelous,\" he said. \"I\nALB> knew then there was something special.\"\n\nALB> Moylan, 49, is one of thousands of men who use introduction agencies to meet\nALB> -- and marry -- Thai women. He lives in England now with 28-year-old Wan,\nALB> who is expecting their first child.\n\nALB> Critics of marriage agencies say they exploit the grinding poverty of women\nALB> in developing countries, offering dreams of a new life in the West that\nALB> often turn sour. But Moylan says he has no regrets about coming to Thailand\nALB> in search of a wife.\n\nALB> \"I got to Thailand at 2 p.m., and by 4 p.m. I'd met Wan,\" he said. \"I knew I\nALB> found her attractive. I could tell straight away that she was very caring.\"\n\nALB> Moylan spent a week in Thailand, and after returning to England kept in\nALB> touch with Wan by phone and mail. Six months later she came to England and\nALB> the couple married.\n\nALB> MR. MARRIAGE\n\nALB> Lawrence Lynch, 49, runs Thai Professional Introduction Services, the agency\nALB> Moylan used to meet his wife. Lynch, who calls himself \"Mr. Marriage,\"\nALB> started the company after also marrying a Thai woman through an introduction\nALB> agency.\n\nALB> Since then he has helped set up hundreds of marriages.\n\nALB> \"In the last five years we've done about 400,\" he said. \"To the best of my\nALB> knowledge, they have all been successful.\"\n\nALB> Male clients pay $2,213 for the service, although men from countries that\nALB> require them to handle some of the visa work on their own get a discount.\nALB> Clients then get to view catalogs and videos of hundreds of Thai women\nALB> looking for a husband. If they like what they see they come to Bangkok.\n\nALB> Clients are introduced to several women in chaperoned meetings in Lynch's\nALB> office -- encounters that can often be awkward given mutual shyness and\nALB> language problems.\n\nALB> \"We find that the gentlemen are usually just as nervous as the ladies,\"\nALB> Lynch said. \"But once they start meeting the ladies they soon relax.\"\n\nALB> After the first meeting, couples can decide to go on dates to get to know\nALB> each other better. Within two weeks of arrival, Lynch says, almost every\nALB> client has found a potential wife.\n\nALB> \"At the end of a fortnight it's very, very rare for a guy to go back and\nALB> think he hasn't made his mind up,\" he said. In most cases, marriage follows,\nALB> usually within the next year.\n\nALB> Roongthip Kamchat, managing director of Thai No. 1 Connections, a\nALB> Bangkok-based agency, says she has introduced about 1,000 couples, and less\nALB> than 10 percent have broken up.\n\nALB> Roongthip says she sometimes has a difficult time calming men who have just\nALB> arrived in Bangkok looking for a wife.\n\nALB> \"Sometimes they are very nervous,\" she said. \"And sometimes they are very\nALB> impatient and say 'Give me a lady, I want to get married now.' I say: 'Calm\nALB> down, OK, we'll talk.\"'\n\nALB> But if men are really in a hurry, Roongthip says, she can find them a wife\nALB> and get them married within a week. Lynch says clients he has found wives\nALB> for include a blind man, a man with one leg and a man with post-traumatic\nALB> stress disorder.\n\nALB> WHY?\n\nALB> Similar marriage agencies can be found in many developing countries. Critics\nALB> say they thrive on the neediness of lonely Western men who are unable to\nALB> form relationships in their own country, and on the desperation of\nALB> impoverished women who believe they can find a better life in the West.\n\nALB> But Moylan says that if the arrangement makes both partners happy, there is\nALB> no reason to object. \"If you talk about people who are needy, I think\nALB> everybody wants someone to love them, and wants someone to love, so yes, I\nALB> need Wan,\" he said.\n\nALB> \"Thai women are dissatisfied with life in Thailand. I think there's no\nALB> secret there. They are looking for a better life. I don't have a problem\nALB> with that. In return they are willing to give a lot of love and care to\nALB> their future husband.\"\n\nALB> Lynch says men are dissatisfied with Western women too, and that is why they\nALB> choose to use his agency.\n\nALB> His brochure promises an alternative to the \"kind of de-feminized,\nALB> over-sized, self-centered, mercenary-minded lady available on the British\nALB> singles scene,\" and says he can make dreams come true even for men who are\nALB> not \"God's gift to women.\"\n\nALB> Roongthip said many Western men found it difficult to meet women in their\nALB> own countries -- and found Thai women attractive.\n\nALB> \"They don't know how to meet women. Even if they go to pubs or discotheques\nALB> or restaurants or department stores, how can they ask people to marry them?\nALB> Impossible,\" she said.\n\nALB> \"Many Thai girls are slim, have long hair, black eyes, small nose. They are\nALB> good at taking care and joking and laughing, not strict. Different from\nALB> ladies from other countries.\"\n\nALB> Although many couples married through agencies have a considerable age gap,\nALB> the agencies say this is not a problem. They say language problems are also\nALB> not a major obstacle.\n\nALB> \"Thai ladies are not ageist, and they have no qualms whatsoever about having\nALB> a husband who is significantly older,\" Lynch said. \"When I met my wife she\nALB> couldn't speak a word of English. We muddled along with a phonetic\nALB> dictionary. The ladies are very keen to learn English and they pick it up\nALB> very quickly.\"\n\nALB> Many agencies also offer tuition for woman on what to expect when they move\nALB> to the West.\n\nALB> \"We have kitchens, we have study classes,\" Roongthip said. \"We teach them\nALB> how to eat, and when to make tea.\"\n\nALB> PITFALLS\n\nALB> But not all dreams come true. \"Bee\" is a 26-year-old Thai woman who went to\nALB> Switzerland two years ago with a man she met through an agency. Now she is\nALB> back in Bangkok, sad and angry.\n\nALB> \"He had no friends, and I was so lonely,\" she said. \"I tried to make him\nALB> happy but he just wanted sex and somebody to keep his house clean. He never\nALB> spoke to me.\"\n\nALB> Bee came back to Bangkok earlier this year. \"I thought I would be happy\nALB> there,\" she said. \"But it was the worst time of my life.\"\n\nALB> Lynch says that while some agencies are badly run, he makes checks to ensure\nALB> unsuitable candidates are weeded out.\n\nALB> \"We are ethical and professional,\" he said. \"We will not take on all\nALB> comers.\"\n\nALB> Moylan says that despite possible pitfalls, his own marriage is proof the\nALB> arrangement can work. Wan's sister has just signed up with Lynch's company,\nALB> looking for a foreign husband.\n\nALB> \"Perhaps there are cases of women being exploited. I'm sure there are,\"\nALB> Moylan said. \"But in the majority of cases the women get a good deal.\"\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \nBest regards,\n bitbitch mailto:bitbitch@magnesium.net\n\n\n" |
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This is a selection of mail messages, suitable for use in testing spam filtering systems assembled by members of the SpamAssassin project.
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label:spamorhamgroup: SpamAssassin has grouped these samples into categories {'hard_ham', 'spam_2', 'spam', 'easy_ham', 'easy_ham_2'}text: normalized text of the message bodiesraw: full binary headers and contents of messages
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